Deaths when not using helmet

[Red Light]

OK let stake quantum physics. It can be shown that light travels in waves. It can also be shown that light travels in particles. Both proofs are valid. To prove one state however is to disprove another. Quantum physics is in essence a science based on faith in the ideas that support it.

Thus demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of both quantum physics and the scientific method.

 

[twobiker]

Have you ever read, or seen, a full scientific paper?

What you are talking about ( above) is the mejia reading the one paragraph summation , stripping out the caveats and probabilities and making a "story" , and if it can disagree with something previously made a "story" all the better. That's not a problem with science, it's one of journalism.

Two words, Global Warming,

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

My contact with science is not through the media I assure you. I agree I am bending the definition of terms here but bare with me. In older religions a sacrifice to the gods followed by whatever it was the sacrifice was for was a proof that 1/the gods existed and 2/they approved. Conversely is what was wanted did not happen it was proof that the gods existed and were unhappy. Yes flawed logic, but no more so than say the Science that proved the MMR injection caused Autism.

There you go you see, Science by press conference !

Wakefileds paper didn't claim there was a link between MMR and autism. What it did say was that in 3/4s of a tiny No ( >20?) of Auticis children who he was studying with a colon disease ( which was what the paper was about) the parents claimed to have seen behavioral differences co incideing with the vaccine.


You it seems, accept the fact that the statistics show that MMR don't cause Autism , yet you won't accept the figures for helmet's , prefering your own" beliefs"

Make up your mind , science or not , or do you prefer to accept science unless in conficts with your religion?

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

Two words, Global Warming,

Yes a perfect case of mejia distorting science. Have you read any papers on climate change, can you dispute the theory of man made climate change , ot are you simply going to use " It was colder today than it was last year so climate change can't be true"?

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

IT is not the media , one week a drink is good for you the next week some other research says its bad, do not try to put the blame on the media,it is the only thing that keeps all these scientists in a job.

You have read two seperate papers claiming the above? Which are they, were can I read them and then we can discuss them?


Or are you simply generalising from something you half remember, that was published without reference, by a journalist who half understood, only half the story ?

 

[twobiker]

You have read two seperate papers claiming the above? Which are they, were can I read them and then we can discuss them?


Or are you simply generalising from something you half remember, that was published without reference, by a journalist who half understood, only half the story ?

YOU sir are an idiot,do you think that I would even bother turning up with just some half-remembered report by a journalist, do not judge me by your slapdash standards, just Google ,"Global warming yes or no" and see how many Scientists say yes and how many say no, ..... amateur.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

It is only valid science if he agrees with it fella.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

YOU sir are an idiot,do you think that I would even bother turning up with just some half-remembered report by a journalist, do not judge me by your slapdash standards, just Google ,"Global warming yes or no" and see how many Scientists say yes and how many say no, ..... amateur.

So which were the papers you were talking about? Let me know I will see if I can read them and then we can discuss them. You have read them haven't you, before you starting calling me an idiot I did ask that question.

As for your idea of counting the number of scientists for and against to work out the relative value of claims, I suggest you think about Galileo. Science is a meritocracy, not a Democracy.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

YOU sir are an idiot,do you think that I would even bother turning up with just some half-remembered report by a journalist, do not judge me by your slapdash standards, just Google ,"Global warming yes or no" and see how many Scientists say yes and how many say no, ..... amateur.

On relfection , yes I do think you would turn up with some half-remembered report by a journalist! You can of course prove me wrong, what were the papers you read?

 

[twobiker]

On relfection , yes I do think you would turn up with some half-remembered report by a journalist! You can of course prove me wrong, what were the papers you read?

Sorry to disappoint you then, I was going to start by apologising for calling you an idiot, now as I read your reply I shall change that to condescending idiot, just Google , Global Warming yes or no, as I said before, 58,500,000,results, happy reading. If you can tell me that in all that there are not two conflicting views on Global Warming then so be it, remember though no journalists, report back by say 2020. or they will cut your funding.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Sorry to disappoint you then, I was going to start by apologising for calling you an idiot, now as I read your reply I shall change that to condescending idiot, just Google , Global Warming yes or no, as I said before, 58,500,000,results, happy reading. If you can tell me that in all that there are not two conflicting views on Global Warming then so be it, remember though no journalists, report back by say 2020. or they will cut your funding.

 

[Dan B]

Sorry to disappoint you then, I was going to start by apologising for calling you an idiot, now as I read your reply I shall change that to condescending idiot, just Google , Global Warming yes or no, as I said before, 58,500,000,results, happy reading. If you can tell me that in all that there are not two conflicting views on Global Warming then so be it, remember though no journalists, report back by say 2020. or they will cut your funding.

Oh no! It turns out there are nutcases on the Internet! Whatever shall we do?

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

Sorry to disappoint you then, I was going to start by apologising for calling you an idiot, now as I read your reply I shall change that to condescending idiot, just Google , Global Warming yes or no, as I said before, 58,500,000,results, happy reading. If you can tell me that in all that there are not two conflicting views on Global Warming then so be it, remember though no journalists, report back by say 2020. or they will cut your funding.

Can I take it then that you haven't fully read two scientific papers on either what drink does what, or Climate Change ( You changed horses mid rant ) ?
I must thank you however, you have admirably proved my point that it is not "Science" that is at fault for changing it's message, but sloppy reporting and lazy reading.

 

[ufkacbln]

Oh no! It turns out there are nutcases on the Internet! Whatever shall we do?

There is unequivocal evidence on the internet that helmets save lives!

How can we question this?

The endorsements are unequivocal in their support and personal anecdote is consistent that this works

"I have been abducted by aliens for years and found stopabductions.com by a happy coincidence.

The Thought Screen Helmet, invented by an expert, has stopped the unwelcome visitations and has raised me and my family`s quality of life. Therefore I highly recommend it."

"Since trying Michael Menkin's Helmet, I have not been bothered by alien mind control. Now my thoughts are my own. I have achieved meaningful work and am contributing to society.

My life is better than ever before. Thank you Michael for the work you are doing to save all humanity."

Should be made compulsory

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

Oh no! It turns out there are nutcases on the Internet! Whatever shall we do?

My suggestion is , ignore them and refer to the published, peer reviewed papers. Others have different views and prefer to count noses.