Daughter Jumped by Two Staffies

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tom73

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Location
Yorkshire
Dogs have no say in which owner they get lumbered with. The least we can do is understand them , train them, care for them, often you have to be one step ahead of them. If you know something back a dog react in a negative way then deal with it long before it happens. Most of us do and understand what ownership means. As with all things a small number of numpties make every one look bad.

We had a therapy dog at our school the days he was in the whole school just acted like a different place. Less tensions , less stressed out staff and students. The SEN students came one heep and bounds dogs don’t judge when you get words wrong in reading. Sadly now we’ve been taken over by an academy it did not fit with the every one must act the same , look the same mindless clones so Ozzie had to go.( he and is owner teacher work at another school now still loved by all)

I also once had a class of adult learners one of which was blind. Having a guide dog fast asleep under the desk was quite a taking point. It was one of most chilled out classes I’ve ever had. The whole atmosphere change many of the learners had real fear of leaning most has really bad time of it at school. But some how the dog just being in room made the whole room settle down and fear of the unknown seam like nothing at all. The 12 weeks was just a joy for all though not sure what is says about my teaching as the dog slept though most of it. :smile:

So dogs do have a place in the world but as with any living thing you have know how to treat them and accept the work that go’s with them. Yes they are at times hard work and can get a right face on but when you’ve had one of them days the love you get makes it all worth it.

Btw you don’t have to have a house smell of dog. Cleaning as you do anyway and opening windows sorts out most things.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
@Postman will be the person to tell you about dogs. Three separate nurses at the hospital asked me if I was a postman when they saw my finger.

As a young copper in the nineties I dealt with a job when an Alsatian attacked a postie and pretty much tore the calf off one leg. I still shudder to think of the poor feller today.
 

postman

Squire
Location
,Leeds
I have been mentioned a couple of times in this thread.So as an outdoor postie i did have some problems,and i will admit during my time 72-83 outside i came across one or two dogs.A small postie in our office Edwin Fearnley about 5' 2" tall was savaged by an alsatian while delivering on Alwoodley Lane Leeds17 then a very posh part of Leeds.it left him fearful for the rest of his time as a postie,he was shook about like a little doll.i have always been big,no apologies for this,but i kicked out at them,mind you no owners were around.One story about a letter box,Alderton Bank the dog would rage on the inside as i posted the letter.So the day the family got the weekly giro envelope i kept hold of it and as the dog bit i twisted my side and ripped the payment in half.Oh the guy came all gobby to the office blah blah blah postie this .well my gaffer Tony Thorpe put him in his place.No more trouble the dog.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Dogs are carnivorous killers, both by evolution and breeding.

The dog doesn't 'go for the face', it goes for the throat because it knows that is the most efficient way for it to kill prey - rip the child's throat out.

Saying the dog is well-behaved and wouldn't hurt a fly is merely playing percentages.

Most dogs go through their lives without seriously attacking anyone, but such an attack could happen with any dog at any time.

That killer instinct cannot be 'trained out' no matter how clever and responsible the owner is.

It can only be suppressed in most dogs for most of the time.
I've a relative who shot two dogs one morning. Between them over a dozen sheep killed. The smaller of the two, a corgi, went for the throats. The larger brought them down. The Corgi, a family pet, was still holding the throat when dead. The larger survived the first shot, being killed by a large stone to the head.

Second shot was via a camera, evidence for the Guards. Neither dog was known to have done anything like this before. But the damage was done.

I've been set upon by two Alsations and a Jack Russell. It was the smaller of the three that bothered and bit me. I'd a bike between me and the two larger dogs.
 

Slick

Guru
I've a relative who shot two dogs one morning. Between them over a dozen sheep killed. The smaller of the two, a corgi, went for the throats. The larger brought them down. The Corgi, a family pet, was still holding the throat when dead. The larger survived the first shot, being killed by a large stone to the head.

Second shot was via a camera, evidence for the Guards. Neither dog was known to have done anything like this before. But the damage was done.

I've been set upon by two Alsations and a Jack Russell. It was the smaller of the three that bothered and bit me. I'd a bike between me and the two larger dogs.
I've seen a small Jack Russell getting shot as it clamped its jaws round the throat of a sheep. The farmer didn't blink an eye in protecting his livestock, and it was a timely lesson for an 8 year old boy. We were on the same hills with our hunting dogs but they never looked twice at any sheep.
 
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We were on the same hills with our hunting dogs but they never looked twice at any sheep.
Goes back to training & knowing their place within the pack, watch the program Dog Whisperer, I now it's Doodle tosh, but in most instances he's not training the dog, he's training the owner.
 

Slick

Guru
Goes back to training & knowing their place within the pack, watch the program Dog Whisperer, I now it's Doodle tosh, but in most instances he's not training the dog, he's training the owner.
Exactly.
 

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
A similar thing happened to a work colleague in the quiet Mendip village where she lives. Long story short, she ended up whacking the dog owner who let the animal off the lead and it went for her kids. Fair enough, it's self defence (or in this case, one three year old and one two years). In the office, she's now known as 'biffer':okay:.
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
I carry a noxious spray with me when I'm running now. The number of dog 'incidents' I've had are too numerous to say. It's the most noxious spray you can carry legally in this country - bought off Amazon - and has worked on the two occasions I've needed to use it. We have a cycle track which I sometimes use to run on and despite the signs all over it informing people (although some can clearly not read) that dogs are not allowed inside the gates, about 50% of the time I use it, a dog or two will make its presence felt. Sometimes they are harmless but if a bike hit them it would be bad for both parties. One of those wrinkly things came hurtling up to me once so a quick spray at its face had it change its mind and turn tail and run but the owner tried to demand I pay for cleaning it up (that one had a red tint to it) so I had to laugh in his face.
 

Spinney

Bimbleur extraordinaire
Location
Back up north
I carry a noxious spray with me when I'm running now. The number of dog 'incidents' I've had are too numerous to say. It's the most noxious spray you can carry legally in this country - bought off Amazon - and has worked on the two occasions I've needed to use it. We have a cycle track which I sometimes use to run on and despite the signs all over it informing people (although some can clearly not read) that dogs are not allowed inside the gates, about 50% of the time I use it, a dog or two will make its presence felt. Sometimes they are harmless but if a bike hit them it would be bad for both parties. One of those wrinkly things came hurtling up to me once so a quick spray at its face had it change its mind and turn tail and run but the owner tried to demand I pay for cleaning it up (that one had a red tint to it) so I had to laugh in his face.
Have you got a link for the actual spray? I've only ever had dogs jump up at me, nothing worse, but I still don't like it. If nothing else, it might help deter the dog from doing the same to someone smaller/older/more likely to be knocked over.
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
I have been mentioned a couple of times in this thread.So as an outdoor postie i did have some problems,and i will admit during my time 72-83 outside i came across one or two dogs.A small postie in our office Edwin Fearnley about 5' 2" tall was savaged by an alsatian while delivering on Alwoodley Lane Leeds17 then a very posh part of Leeds.it left him fearful for the rest of his time as a postie,he was shook about like a little doll.i have always been big,no apologies for this,but i kicked out at them,mind you no owners were around.One story about a letter box,Alderton Bank the dog would rage on the inside as i posted the letter.So the day the family got the weekly giro envelope i kept hold of it and as the dog bit i twisted my side and ripped the payment in half.Oh the guy came all gobby to the office blah blah blah postie this .well my gaffer Tony Thorpe put him in his place.No more trouble the dog.
I must've had around 40 jobs in my life. One being a postman in 1996. It wasn't for me,as i just couldn't get used to going to bed sooo early. :ohmy: Anyway,i'd just like to say that from my 6 month of posting letters and the odd leaflet distribution jobs i've had, that i found the most aggressive dogs waiting behind the door to snap my fingers were Yorkshire Terriers. With them being small the owners seemed to think it was acceptable,sometimes even funny that their 'cute little dog' waited to bite any fingers that appeared through their letter boxes.:thumbsdown:
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
I've been set upon by two Alsations and a Jack Russell. It was the smaller of the three that bothered and bit me. I'd a bike between me and the two larger dogs.

On a lighter note,that reminds me of the tale of the person who wandered onto a farm yard or a scrapyard,i can't remember which exactly. There was a hand painted sign that read 'Beware of the dog'. The dog (German Shepherd) was chained up,so the person just thought 'aw i'm safe,he can't reach me if i keep my distance'^_^. This person's feeling of security was soon shattered as this crazed Jack Russell came running out barking and snapping at the startled person.:ohmy: The farmer or scarp yard owner told the startled victim that the sign was there to warn of the dangerous Jack Russell,not the placid chained German Shepherd!:whistle:
 
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