The point of the thread was never that bright coloured clothing could or should take the place of lights ( especially 150 quid rear lights ). In fact it was never about high vis clothing, just why people choose (and it is a choise that I respect) to buy and wear cycle specific clothing that is dark while riding in low light conditions.
I am not interested in youths cycling around in hoodies, or for that matter business folk commuting in suit trousers. They have not chosen their clothes specifically for cycling. They are inadvertently making themselves harder to see...it's more the bloke who turns out on a dark overcast morning for a winter reliability ride wearing head to toe black Assos gear. The chances are that the kit came in red, yellow, white or blue but they chose to buy the black one. Now did they give more consideration into how appropriate that colour was to cycling or how slimming/cool/ninja it was going to make them look?
The whole 24 pages of this thread highlight that its vanity that dictates most cycle clothing choise ie
Don't want to look like a lemon
Would rather be dead than wear high viz
There is only one rule, that is never wear white kit
Learned bugger-all since post #1, then? Good job it was such riotous fun along the way. Oh, wait...