CYCLOGS

[Rassendyll]

I'll ask whether more money would mean more server resilience, and if so then yes perhaps a fundraising exercise would be beneficial to all.

FWIW I think you can be pretty sure that any funds would go towards maintaining / improving the site. As mentioned above, he is very low key on the donations and has resisted any temptation to put advertising or any commercial features on the site.

However there is of course a down side to buying better hosting etc which is that the cost then gets locked in, and requires more reminders to donate, and then the people who donate feel ownership of the site and there is pressure to keep it running and give value for money. It's another level of commitment and implications. I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if he politely declined.

My own contribution is buying him the occasional cup of tea at the top of Box Hill (which I always reach before him, just in case he reads this ). I've assured him the the huddled masses of the internet are wishing his code well and yearning not to be free.

 

[phil_hg_uk]

Maybe a small annual subscription would be an idea.

 

[Plax]

Maybe a small annual subscription would be an idea.

That could work, Bikjournal has difference levels of memebership (free, premier & club I think it is) and you get a little yellow jersey by your name if you subscribe. Cyclogs could perhaps do somthing similar.

 

[ianrauk]

I think the thing is if it was subscription only it would put a lot of people off. And no doubt the chap who runs it would want as much traffic and people signing up as possible. So perhaps as Plax said above, a sliding scale would definitely work. But to make it simple just have Free and Premier. Free just gets you a listing where you can see yourself on the leader board only, Premier to give you access to all the other pages & features.

 

[Coco]

Taking money off people changes it from being a fun thing to work. People's expectations may also change.

 

[Auntie Helen]

Well the bits for my trike arrived today so it now has a fresh rear cassette, new chain tubes, new chain and I have some spare other bits (including a new idler which I do need to fit but we can't get the old one off!). It's weird being back on my trike after using James's since 1 Jan - mine feels really comfortable and wide and relaxing.

I'm way way down on my target this month, having done a measly 136 miles so far when I should have done 350ish. Oh well!

 

[summerdays]

I don't even want to look at how few I have done - probably under 50 ... still at least I have the rest of the year to play catch up.

 

[Rassendyll]

Reply from Mr Cyclogs... not a matter of money, but even if it was then as Coco succinctly said, it changes the whole game.

"Unfortunately, it's not a matter of money, but time. There are problems with the code which are making the app unstable, so needs a full code review and analysis to sort out. Sorry if it's inconvenient for the cycle chat people, but hopefully they can appreciate that this is a hobby/spare time website, and cannot be guaranteed to be available. I'm really busy with work at the moment. I did start on a ground-up re-write last year which should, hopefully, eliminate these problems, but it will be a while before it's ready. In the meantime, they'll just have to be patient... "

I should add, he works as a contractor in the IT section of a city bank so it's not the most secure environment at the moment and not to be taken for granted.

 

[Auntie Helen]

Hmmm, that sounds like it might actually be a while before it's back up. I may have to log elsewhere for a while, but Bikejournal annoys me. Anyone else got any recommendations?

 

[Auntie Helen]

I've found My Cycling Log which has a great target system:

I also like Bikewire but neither can replace cyclogs

I like the look of My Cycling Log and will log there until Cyclogs comes back up. I've stuck a CycleChat team on there - a team of just one (me!)

I hadn't downloaded my Cyclogs data for a while but I do have all 2010's data on Ascent (extracted from my Garmin) so I can put that newly on My Cycling Log.

 

[Shrimp_Stu]

I should add, he works as a contractor in the IT section of a city bank so it's not the most secure environment at the moment and not to be taken for granted.

Is it your "local bank" as that's where I am contracting at the moment, perhaps we can schedule a meeting to help get this resolved: two heads are better than one as they say!!!

 

[Scoosh]

My Cycling looks friendly too, so, once the ice etc is gone and I start riding again, I'll try it out.

[and you can record turbo rides as well, on a special page ]

 

[Rassendyll]

Is it your "local bank" as that's where I am contracting at the moment, perhaps we can schedule a meeting to help get this resolved: two heads are better than one as they say!!!

No, it's a foreign commercial bank, although I gather it at least didn't invest all the money it never had in magic-bean plantations.

I'll ask if he is open to offers of help but again I think we've been through that before and it gets back to it being something that he just does when he can and when he feels like it.

Next time we ride to Box Hill I'll let you all know and you can ambush him and give him Chinese burns until he promises to fix it, or carrot-cake and tea depending on your approach to motivation.

I like Bikewire, although it is a strange mix of nice dynamically generated stuff and really clunky old lists and prescribed actions.

Sob...

Cyclogs was just so simple and did what it should do.

 

[Davidc]

I've registered with mycyclinglog - not too painful and fortunately I've kept ride data on aspreadsheet longer than on cyclogs, and still do.

I preferred cyclogs, but it isn't there any more!

Can I suggest that if all the cc cyclogs crowd are going there the Scotland bunch set up their own group again to avoid the mileage total being too embarrasing....

 

[Garz]

Here is a cycling log: