Cyclists who deserve to be disliked

[apollo179]

What we need here is a bit of free enterprise. In Lagos where I spend quite a bit of time driving around, the local government went out a couple of years ago and bought a box of light bulbs for all the traffic lights, which are now working. To my amazement drivers respect the lights and the traffic flows pretty well. The reason? You can always be sure there will be a Police officer or traffic warden lurking and if they so much as suspect you've jumped a light they will stop you and unload your wallet. The prospect of instant "fines" is a very effective deterrent to RLJing.

Yes effective enforcement would deter rljing (and other cycling offences).
I didnt even know cyclists were covered by any laws till i joined this forum and i suspect that similarly most of the public dont realise that cycliing is covered by the law in the same way as motorists are. The zero enforcement of cycling law enforces / causes this thinking.
Mind you zero enforcement is surely just how we all want it to remain (presumably)

 

[Fiona N]

In which case, I find it simply staggering.

Three seconds is an eternity.

10% is a huge number of cars.

20% is a huger (?) number of buses.

....

I can believe that even for provincial Kendal, although it varies with the junction. On my way into town, there's a staggered junction with three phases to the lights and the phase for the direction to my right to enter the junction always overruns so that the phase for my direction often has to wait for RLJers on the junction. The thing is, from the ASL box, I can see the lights for their direction and you can see that some cars approaching the junction on the red too fast still carry on through or if they see us moving, do an emergency stop after the ASL. Needless to say locals from my direction don't RLJ on our phase or we'd get mown down but occasionally you see an out-of-towner go on green

 

[Angelfishsolo]

I can believe that even for provincial Kendal, although it varies with the junction. On my way into town, there's a staggered junction with three phases to the lights and the phase for the direction to my right to enter the junction always overruns so that the phase for my direction often has to wait for RLJers on the junction. The thing is, from the ASL box, I can see the lights for their direction and you can see that some cars approaching the junction on the red too fast still carry on through or if they see us moving, do an emergency stop after the ASL. Needless to say locals from my direction don't RLJ on our phase or we'd get mown down but occasionally you see an out-of-towner go on green

I guess not much will happen until there is a fatality or two. That seems to be the only thing that makes LA's sit up and take notice.

 

[al78]

Since the Bicycle has enjoyed over 100 years of development, perhaps we could rely on Darwins Theory over the next 100, and maybe only the sensible ones will be left, and this thread will be hanging in a museum. Nature finds a way as they say.

Or not, as the case may be:

http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/06/07/the-just-world-fallacy/

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Or not, as the case may be:

http://youarenotsosm...-world-fallacy/

I'm sorry but that book not about Darwinian selection. The theory is survival of the fittest, not the smartest sadly. If fittest is taken to mean "best at adapting to an environment then "maybe" the zero conscience idiots are a by product of out environment ie they are adapting to survive. I hope that this is not true but as the world around us becomes faster and more aggressive it is a natural conclusion to draw that those who do not adjust get left behind

 

[locker]

That's consistent with the TfL survey that found 16% ignoring red lights which compares with 10% of cars and 20% of buses crossing more than 3 seconds after the light had gone red. So pretty much a feature of all road users, rather than cyclists in particular.

I find that only
10% of me believes in surveys
15% of me believes what I see
25% of me believes what I read
55% of me believes in adding up the percentages to see if they add up