"cyclists stay back" stickers, tfl

[Origamist]

I don't see what the big deal is here.
If it saves one naive, inexperienced rider form being squished then perhaps it has paid off.
I've got greater things to be concerned about.

If we accept that argument, you might as well put dozens of stickers all over vehicles:

"Stop tail-gating"
"Stop speeding"
"Don't overtake on a blind bend"

The message of these stickers is too simplistic.

 

[Learnincurve]

HGVs you can see the point if the driver genuinely does have a blind spot, but as for normal cars I think they are insulting, but a good thing because it makes bad drivers who don't check behind them, give cyclists enough space or fail to indicate when they turn much easier to identify.

 

[wilkotom]

I saw a lorry this morning with a version I hadn't seen before. The wording was "Cyclists: Overtake, Don't Undertake" with "Driver may not see you" in smaller text beneath. Much better than the usual cyclists stay back nonsense and only marginally harder to read (if at all), and no implication that cyclists shouldn't pass at all...

 

[Markymark]

Maybe on my London commute I should have a sticker that says "Cars, don't overtake, I'm quicker than you anyway"

 

[martinclive]

Maybe on my London commute I should have a sticker that says "Cars, don't overtake, I'm quicker than you anyway"

Most of Cambridge is going 20mph - so true here as well (sometimes!)

 

[uclown2002]

I saw a lorry this morning with a version I hadn't seen before. The wording was "Cyclists: Overtake, Don't Undertake" with "Driver may not see you" in smaller text beneath. Much better than the usual cyclists stay back nonsense and only marginally harder to read (if at all), and no implication that cyclists shouldn't pass at all...

Indeed, and yet someone will be along soon to tell us they find it unnecessary and borderline offensive..

 

[Markymark]

FFS Its not that it's offensive, its when its used as an excuse to endanger cyclists through the other driver's inability to drive around us.

As in, driver turns left, not bothering to look if there's anyone in the cycle lane he's crossing, as, you know, he has a sticker telling us not to be there....even though he may have overtaken and left-hooked the cyclist on the first place.

 

[glenn forger]

 

[jarlrmai]

Gotta say these stickers are more and more looking like some sort of get out clause if you left hook/ left door a cyclists, filtering or not.

 

[Origamist]

We need another sticker: "Drivers - Stay Out of ASL Zones"

 

[gambatte]

“Beware of passing this vehicle on this side. The driver is that ignorant of cyclists they park over the advance stop lines”

 

[jefmcg]

There's another completely different factor here. It completely devalues that sticker. As I cyclist, it reminds me to treat vehicles with this sticker with some respect; that the vehicle had a larger turning circle, or blind spots or whatever. If the sticker is put on every type of vehicle, then it has no value at all. Cyclists who aren't aware which vehicles need to be treated with extra respect, will not learn it on the road - except the hard way.

 

[benb]

If the stickers were only on large vehicles then that's one thing. (although I'd prefer they were worded more like "Cyclists: Blind Spots. avoid passing this vehicle on the left")

But as others have said, they are sprouting up on all kinds of vehicles where they shouldn't be, and they are now starting to be used as an excuse to avoid having to use proper observation.

 

[summerdays]

You see the sticker on that one is good, as you can see it's highlighting that his skills are a little deficient so you should stay back and give him a wide birth (since he can't manage to stop before the line!).

Edit: I see everyone has already said this, that will teach me not to read to the end before replying!

 

[theclaud]

How about "Vehicle and/or driver unfit to share road. Please indulge."?