Cyclist runs dow pedestrian

[ChrisKH]

If a vehicle has stopped at a pedestrian crossing to let a pedestrian cross, then you shouldn't go past them. The highway code is very specific about this, there's no room for wiggling. If you'd hit the pedestrian, you'd be in the wrong.

I don't even understand why you'd want to wiggle out of your responsibility towards pedestrians in this specific situation, to be honest.

Not wiggling. Taxi had stopped on the centre of the crossing not for the pedestrian per se, not before it and he was in a left hand flow of traffic that was moving albeit sporadically. I was in a RH flow of traffic also moving. This is a push button crossing for pedestrians, not a standard belisha beacon crossing with black and white lines. If you truly believe that I remain fully culpable in that situation, I will amend my practice at light driven pedestrian crossings and be appropriately contrite. I'm not arguing for the sake of defending my position, I want to know if I was wrong.

 

[ChrisKH]

It would appear I have been operating incorrectly. I can't find anything specific in the Highway Code but in the Light Signals Controlling Traffic section it says quite plainly "Green means you may go on if the way is clear. Take special care if you intend to turn left or right and give way to pedestrians who are crossing". I think that's clear, even if lights are green you have to give way.

I apologise Mikey if I appeared obstructive. You were right.

 

[domtyler]

all road users should be specially careful of more vulnerable road users. Peds are the most vulnerable, cyclists next, all the way up to HGVs and beyond. if you change ped to cyclist and cyclist to motorcyclist in the OP some folks here would have formed a lynch squad by now

What is beyond the HGV?

 

[mitchum]

Snow ploughs?

 

[Tynan]

who hit someone on a ped crossing?

the argument is widening as usual but a pedestrian crossing the road has a duty to do so safely, if they're crossing somewhere where they can't see what's coming then they're not doing so, that's almost always when crossing between cars, it's difficult (not that 99% bother) to see cyclists and motorbikes coming down the channels

whether or not the cyclist tried to ride off is irrelevant to whose is at fault for the accident

yes I know the HC, and peds are as good as blameless regardless of what they do and everyone else has to do their safety for them but undertaking slow moving traffic is perfectly legal and part and parcel of London cycling

granted the cyclist's speed sounds inappropriate

local story here today is a female drunk driver rolling her car on the road leading to one of the local schools (a small road) and crushing to death the local pub landlord's child in it's pushchair, so save some ire for that yeah?

 

[mr_cellophane]

I am normally walking across Fenchurch Street at 8:30, but had a dentist app today. The way pedestrians cross the road and the speed of some cyclists, I am surprised I have never seen anyone hit. I perfer to come out of the Crutched Friars exit as their is a traffic island at the top their (although I have seen motorcyclist and cyclist going the wrong side of that).

 

[Jake]

the ammount of times i've nearly been wacked by some prat on a bike as I corss the cross-roads at junction of goswell and old street when the green man is on..... I think im hoping to get hit so i can scream blue murder and have an excuse to lamp some of these guys. Yesterday when standing on the little island this effing taxi virtually took me out as he skimmed the kurp mounting the islands low point, just so he could pass another car to get ahead. W*ker grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[bryce]

The giver of pain is always going to get more blame and receive less sympathy than the receiver, especially when the giver tried to do a hit-and-run and the receiver was flung off her feet.

If a cyclist was flung off her bike by a hit-and-run HGV the same would apply. No point in defending the cyclist because he is a cyclist.

 

[Lazy-Commuter]

What is beyond the HGV?

Trains ?

 

[CopperBrompton]

a pedestrian crossing the road has a duty to do so safely

Yes, and a cyclist, motorcyclist or car driver has a duty to overtake safety. Specifically, you may not overtake if you cannot see that it is safe to do so.

Rules of the road do apply to cyclists too, you know.

Ben

 

[stephenb]

Trains ?

i had low flying 747s in mind but trains will do

 

[BentMikey]

It would appear I have been operating incorrectly. I can't find anything specific in the Highway Code but in the Light Signals Controlling Traffic section it says quite plainly "Green means you may go on if the way is clear. Take special care if you intend to turn left or right and give way to pedestrians who are crossing". I think that's clear, even if lights are green you have to give way.

I apologise Mikey if I appeared obstructive. You were right.

Not at all - I've been glad of corrections to my own riding on the net as well.

In fairness to you I still don't think much of the pedestrians state of mind walking out in front of a taxi on a red man, LOL!

 

[Lazy-Commuter]

i had low flying 747s in mind but trains will do

Something like HGV -> Train -> Main Battle Tank -> Low Flying 747s maybe?

 

[stephenb]

Something like HGV -> Train -> Main Battle Tank -> Low Flying 747s maybe?

sounds like a fun commute

 

[Lazy-Commuter]

sounds like a fun commute

.. just a normal day in the Big City by the sounds of some other threads!!