Cyclist runs dow pedestrian

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Jake

New Member
prob one of those couriers. they don't stop for anything, red lights, other cars, let along a pedestrian.
 

ChrisKH

Guru
Location
Essex
Catrike UK said:
On Fenchurch street this morning about 8:30am, cars are all stopped and a driver leaves a gap for a lady to cross the road, blind cyclist travels at speed up the gap at the side knocks lady clean off her feet then makes to ride away, but he was collared by other people, was it one of you reprobates? :ohmy:

Not surprised. I nearly hit a ped yesterday as I cycled down the middle of Fenchurch Street across a ped crossing which was green for me and all traffic. Now all along that road I take particular care (they're all zombies I'm afraid) but at that point there's a set of ped. lights. This particular ped just walked out in front of me and a taxi. The taxi stopped even though the light was green and he was blocking my view as I pulled alongside him (I was just about to turn right down by the station). Fortunately I saw the ped in time.

It's all very well saying that peds have rights but they have responsibilities as well. At that point if you step out when the light is green for traffic you are culpable. The red man is red for a reason. It means don't walk. I'm prepared to give way and assist pedestrians use the road responsibly and safely and I'd like to think they should do the same for other road users. But they don't. I'm not defending the cyclists actions, but pedestrians need to wise up as well.
 

PrettyboyTim

New Member
Location
Brighton
Tynan said:
sure but the accident is the ped's fault, granted the cyclist can try to prevent it but it's another example of all the other road users ignoring bikes and motorbikes when crossing, I certainly look again for bikes on the outsides and motorbikes in the centre when crossing the road

np-one else on here keeps moving when the traffic stops?

You can't blame it all on the ped - the cyclist was overtaking without due care. If they had the lane to themselves it'd be different.
 
OP
OP
Riding in Circles
Location
EDINBURGH
It was the cyclists fault, plain and simple, he was going to fast, when the ped stepped out he was nowhere to be seen, she tried to dodge him when he came into view but he was going to fast, she was knocked clean off her feet and went down hard, the cyclist should be prosecuted, yes I did see it.
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
Indeed. It always amazes me the way some people will bend over backwards to defend cyclists just because they're cyclists. Substitute driver for cyclist, and cyclist for pedestrian, and we'd have a complete reversal in attitude from the minority who seem to think cyclists can do no wrong.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
ChrisKH said:
Not surprised. I nearly hit a ped yesterday as I cycled down the middle of Fenchurch Street across a ped crossing which was green for me and all traffic. Now all along that road I take particular care (they're all zombies I'm afraid) but at that point there's a set of ped. lights. This particular ped just walked out in front of me and a taxi. The taxi stopped even though the light was green and he was blocking my view as I pulled alongside him (I was just about to turn right down by the station). Fortunately I saw the ped in time.

Just as well, because you'd be entirely at fault there. Don't overtake the nearest car to a pedestrian crossing according to the highway code rule 165.
 

ChrisKH

Guru
Location
Essex
BentMikey said:
Just as well, because you'd be entirely at fault there. Don't overtake the nearest car to a pedestrian crossing according to the highway code rule 165.

Two lanes? I'm in the outside lane ready to turn right after the lights. I suppose overtaking was not strictly a correct description. I had indicated to turn right to traffic in front, right and behind me as I approached the crossing. I was in the middle of the offside lane. And to be fair I did stop. Anyway, I wasn't necessarily looking for a critique of my cycling skills merely pointing out that even in the situation where there is adequate provision for pedestrians (ie lights) they don't use them as they are intended.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
The offside lane is generally called the overtaking lane.
 

domtyler

Über Member
BentMikey said:
The offside lane is generally called the overtaking lane.

Don't be such a silly boy Mikey, we are not talking motorways here, they are dual laned urban roads. Chris was in the right and the pedestrian was not using their brain.
 

ChrisKH

Guru
Location
Essex
BentMikey said:
The offside lane is generally called the overtaking lane.

I'm not clear on this. So what you are saying is if I am in the offside (left hand of the centre line, not the other side of the road) lane which is one of two, preparing to turn right after the pedestrian lights and the light is green that I cannot move faster than traffic in the nearside lane? And to be clearer still the taxi to my left had stopped in the middle of the crossing not before it and the pedestrian walked in front of the taxi when the red man was showing. I would still be at fault?
 

stephenb

Guru
all road users should be specially careful of more vulnerable road users. Peds are the most vulnerable, cyclists next, all the way up to HGVs and beyond. if you change ped to cyclist and cyclist to motorcyclist in the OP some folks here would have formed a lynch squad by now
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
If a vehicle has stopped at a pedestrian crossing to let a pedestrian cross, then you shouldn't go past them. The highway code is very specific about this, there's no room for wiggling. If you'd hit the pedestrian, you'd be in the wrong.

I don't even understand why you'd want to wiggle out of your responsibility towards pedestrians in this specific situation, to be honest.
 
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