Cycling UK Advice Coronavirus

[PaulSB]

You've just proved my point. You are retired so in high risk vulnerable group which the PM has said should self isolate for 12 weeks, no exceptions. I think riding or driving to a newsagents to get a paper would be in breach of your isolation. The self isolation was put in place by the government for your own safety and well being. If you have other ideas about compliance then that's down to you but my post was neither inaccurate, rude or ignorant.

In any case people who buy newspapers is painfully low now so much so that many run them as loss leaders as most people get their news from their on-line sites or social media. I doubt whether many younger people buy a newspaper. It really is only the older generation.

OK so let's examine this post in a little detail:

1. Could you provide a link showing a 65 year old, retired male is in a high risk vulnerable group
2. Please provide a link showing why a healthy individual with no underlying health issues for self-isolate for 12 weeks
3. At what point have I made any statement as regards to what does or does not breach "your" (meaning me in your post) self-isolation?
4. Where have I stated I have "other ideas" as to what compliance with self-isolation is?
5. Your second paragraph who buys newspapers is irrelevant. The act of buying a newspaper does not make an individual an "old fossil."

I took the trouble to establish whether or not I am in a high risk group sometime ago. I know precisely those groups and look forward to being able to place myself in a group when you provide the appropriate details. My description of your post was clear and accurate unlike the contents of the post quoted above.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

With less outdoor exercise and movement don’t forget to do some walking or jumps or running to maintain bone density.

 

[vickster]

Your post was accurate about re the paper buying aspect, but don't you think calling people old fossils could be construed as rude and ignorant by some people, and you seem to have got your facts wrong in your latest post, isn't it over 70's who have been told to self isolate for 12 week.

And the over 70s are still allowed to exercise if not in the 1.5m shielded group with severe respiratory illness, compromised immune system etc

 

[mjr]

Exactly, and Paul regularly churns out decent miles at great average speeds. Probably puts many younger riders on here to shame.

There is nothing shameful in riding slower or not as far!

 

[mjr]

Is the question more about do we cycle for sport and pleasure and exercise is a by product? Or do we cycle for exercise?

I cycle to get where I'm going, most of the time, like most cyclists IIRC. Twice as many commuters as leisure cyclists.

 

[slowmotion]

If you are reckoned to be in the vulnerable group, you will be sent a text and a letter from HMG this week. A friend who had an organ transplant got his yesterday.

 

[Mo1959]

There is nothing shameful in riding slower or not as far!

Just a turn of phrase.......I’m much slower myself these days, I was just trying to make the point that Paul is hardly an old fossil!

 

[lane]

Reply to @slowmotion


There is more than one category of vulnerable with different recommendations. Over 70 together with under 70 with less serious conditions or the most serious the ones you refer to. The revised cycling UK advice I posted yesterday provides advice in each case.

Edit : rather than read my clumsy wording refer to the new cycling UK advice I posted yesterday or NHS

 

[adamangler]

At the moment we are still allowed to ride. Now to go out for 3 hours may be taking advantage of the situation but we are not breaking guidelines by doing so just stretching them to the limit. I'm sure in due course further measures will come in such as exercise withing 200m of your home etc but until then exploit it, if you can do so safely.

 

[hoopdriver]

The thing is if you're spinning along alone on a country lane at 15mph you are not posing a risk to anyone, nor are you likely to pick up anything yourself.

 

[Velochris]

At the moment we are still allowed to ride. Now to go out for 3 hours may be taking advantage of the situation but we are not breaking guidelines by doing so just stretching them to the limit. I'm sure in due course further measures will come in such as exercise withing 200m of your home etc but until then exploit it, if you can do so safely.

The guidelines do say we can continue to ride, but I think some are missing the point. The guidelines also say that for all the "outdoor" exemptions, time spent outside the home should be minimised.

I don't think that the average man in the street would see three hour rides as minimal. I agree that riding alone, in quiet areas is low risk, and lower than running in urban areas. However, once we start to ignore the guidelines, whether we see them sensible or not, we cannot complain about others also breaching the guidelines.

 

[mjr]

"The tragedy of the commons is a situation in a shared-resource system where individual users, acting independently according to their own self-interest, behave contrary to the common good of all users by depleting or spoiling the shared resource through their collective action." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

 

[Pat "5mph"]

You are retired so in high risk vulnerable group which the PM has said should self isolate for 12 weeks, no exceptions.

Mod Note:
this is an incorrect statement.
Being retired does not put you automatically in a high risk group.
Facts here.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Now to go out for 3 hours may be taking advantage of the situation but we are not breaking guidelines by doing so just stretching them to the limit.

The fundamental message from the government is “Stay home - Save lives”.

Yes, you can use exercise as one of the exemptions but that is on condition that you minimise the time spent outside.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...dance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others

As I said elsewhere on this subject, don’t go looking to interpret the restrictions in a way that lets you carry on with some favourite pastime or hobby in the midst of a global health crisis. Maybe you have found a loophole, so what? Don’t make excuses for needlessly increasing the risk of spreading this virus.

 

[straas]

The current government advice suggests 150 minutes of exercise a week for healthy adults (this is unrelated to and predates any coronavirus advice)

So you'd expect if there were to be further restrictions then this MAY be the limit? So just over 20 minutes a day.

Obviously no-one knows at this point, this is pure assumption.