GrasB said:
This is where a knowledgeable LBS attendant who listens to you come into their own. Very quickly we narrowed down a list of bikes which met my requirements but none of them were 'classical' touring bikes, oddly they were all the more sporty hybrid city bikes that felt closer to road bikes & 'crossers.
Yep, I kind of got there by mistake with the Giant CRS Alliance, with the wheelset being the only significant weakness, IMO. It doesn't work well as a laden commuter(though different wheelset could solve a lot of that) but, stripped down, it's been great as a weekend bike. In fact, if I look at the new bike that has ticked all the boxes for me, it's surprisingly similar to the Giant. I've chosen a Van Nicholas Amazon, wanted a titanium bike, and it came down to the Amazon or the Yukon. The latter just lacked the necessary clearances and the fittings for v-brakes. They would have modified it for me but that would have just been chopping a Yukon to try and make it like an Amazon.
There's a few now that seem to offer the greater versatility, sticking points seem to be around brake types, clearance and bar diameters. I just wouldn't buy a bike now that didn't have decent clearance, it removes too many options.