Cycling caps under helmets

[jefmcg]

Smearing brown sauce on your head makes you more likely to win the lotter (the premise). Can we debate whether squirting ketchup in your ears makes you more or less likely without debating how the likely the premise is originally?

No, they are too different. Different substance, different application technique, different body part. However if you want to ask whether smearing ketchup on your head in the same manner as the brown sauce would help, then we could talk. I need to know what properties of brown sauce lead to the alleged protection and then look at whether ketchup had those same properties. Eg if it was because brown colour is well known to prevent concussion, then I would say no. If it was due to the particular stickiness engendered by the ratio of vinegar to sugar, then I could compare ingredients and see if ketchup might do the trick.

(I'm writing this on the assumption that this is all going to be cleaned up later by a mod )

Edit: missed the key word/typo "lotter" Ah well, too lazy to fix my post.

 

[Ian H]

At some point cycling caps appear to have suffered a redesign so that they fit under h*lm*ts. Unfortunately this makes them less effective when worn as sole head-covering. Rather irritating.

 

[Markymark]

No, they are too different. Different substance, different application technique, different body part. However if you want to ask whether smearing ketchup on your head in the same manner as the brown sauce would help, then we could talk. I need to know what properties of brown sauce lead to the alleged protection and then look at whether ketchup had those same properties. Eg if it was because brown colour is well known to prevent concussion, then I would say no. If it was due to the particular stickiness engendered by the ratio of vinegar to sugar, then I could compare ingredients and see if ketchup might do the trick.

(I'm writing this on the assumption that this is all going to be cleaned up later by a mod )

the brown sauce definitely helps. I know lots of people who don't smear brown sauce and they've never won. I regularly do and I've won lots of £10. Stands to reason. The mix of ingredients directs the cosmic rays. The ketchup interferes with it. Now debate the ketchup without debating the brown sauce (which belongs in the brown sauce thread)

 

[MiK1138]

The cap protects your head, the helmet protects your cap. I'd probably ditch the helmet and just wear the cap as you'll get the same protection and look much cooler. I have a number of cycling caps and it's a well recognised fact that I'm the coolest member on this forum.

Yes but you live in "That London" up here in Jockland I need to wear a helmet over my cap as the wind will blow my cap off

 

[Markymark]

Easily. You don't need to know what the baseline effectiveness is, just what the change is (positive, negative or zero).

I had a cycle cap once, it was free. I've probably lost it. I certainly never wore it.

Read the rest of my drivel, I'm not doing it again!!

 

[John the Monkey]

Can you get to the point please?

There's no limit, I think he's saying.

In essence, feel free to reach for the sky, as there's no valley to deep, no maintain to high.

 

[Markymark]

Do I have to?

No but it does give an answer to counter your post.

 

[Shaun]

I haven't removed any posts but if you want to discuss the efficacy of helmets, please do it here: https://www.cyclechat.net/forums/helmet-discussions.174/

This thread is about wearing cycling caps under helmets, so please let's get back on topic ... thanks.

 

[Tanis8472]

Oh, come on. Did you never study logic? You start with a premise "A helmet securely and correctly fastened to the head will protect you in an accident" and a proposition "A helmet over a cycling cap will protect you just as well in a accident". You then attempt to prove or disprove the proposition, assuming the premise is true. And go to the helmet thread to debate the premise.

Surely you mean a preposition

And btw, Brown sauce is better at protecting against sun burn when not wearing a hat or helmet than red sauce.

 

[Dayvo]

If the cap fits, wear it!

 

[Welsh wheels]

This thread was in trouble from the moment I used the word helmet, wasn't it?

 

[Tanis8472]

Yes lol

 

[Apollonius]

It is pretty conventional to wear a cycling cap under your helmet when it is raining. I wear a headband at all times to keep the sweat from stinging my eyes. Some people wear a bandana under the helmet. Some people don't wear helmets. You choose.

 

[mjr]

I wear one in the rain only as I'm a spectacles wearer, too hot otherwise.

The brim on the hat in your avatar looks like it would keep the rain off your specs. Try one like that.

wheeled my crunchy, grinding French into play

You need to put mudflaps on your English to stop it splattering your French with grit...

So the helmets work with bald heads, buzz cuts, superfine shoulder length adolescent hair, masses of unruly wavy hair, corn rows, an "afro", wiry steel grey hair etc etc etc** but might fail if you wear a cap?

No, some manuals tell you not to have those hairstyles and I think Specialized is one but I CBA to check right now. There's a link to the big S's manual in the main helmet thread IIRC - where this topic of undermining helmets was already well covered a while ago. So much for keeping it all on one thread!

Yes but you live in "That London" up here in Jockland I need to wear a helmet over my cap as the wind will blow my cap off

Buy a cap with a chinstrap you tightwad!

 

[BalkanExpress]

Five pages in and no one has asked the essential question:

Peak up or peak down?