Current e-bike wattage.

[cyberknight]

They don't, unless you rewrite the meaning of 'trial'.

fair enough i missed that

 

[Dadam]

Being a man, I have carefully avoided reading the instructions, so, no, I am not sure , but, it is possible to run the chain backwards via the pedals.

My bike is a Specialised Turbo Vada EL if that helps, it is a "mid drive", but, not a Bosch.

OK, maybe that's just the Bosch system then

 

[wiggydiggy]

There's a secondary freewheel ratchet in the BB. A bit of a pain as you've got to raise the rear wheel to lube the chain. You can't run the chain backwards via the pedals

On the Bosch Active Line you definately can run the chain backwards via pedal, though I don't do it often as I normally lube it when its on the stand for cleaning.

 

[a.twiddler]

I have 2 ebikes - and have 4 another
walk assist was very useful on all of them except the Motus - which has Bosch drive
On the others it would go up to the relevant speed (if it could) and hold there smoothly
as you say - useful on hills and ramps etc

But the Bosch one keep changing speed and/or cutting in and out - even on the flat
clearly the mid-drive system goes through the gears - which a hub drive system does not - but using different gears only affects the speed fractionally - and has no effect on the cutting in/out

Do other people with Bosch Activ-Line systems see this - or is it just mine??

I have asked the LBS and he can;t see any problems with the system - due to go back soon so I'll get him to check for updated software but I am not optimistic that the walk-assist will improve!

"updated software". This is where my enthusiasm for a potential future ebike parts company with my expectation of a simple machine that can be fixed by the roadside if necessary. Does what is essentially just a bike with a motor and some sensors need a system which has software that needs updating? I, and many others, have probably had bikes that we've owned for years without the expectation of them becoming obsolete within a relatively short time, living with or upgrading any shortcomings.

Are ebikes likely to become just as disposable as mobile phones or other similar consumer electronics when support ends for whatever proprietary operating system they have? I remember being flabbergasted when the first car I owned with an electronic handbrake was having some issues with it and my local VW dealer offered a software update "for only £125, sir". A software upgrade for a handbrake. Hmm. Cycling is my refuge from all that nonsense and it would be a shame that once I can't get up them thar hills so easily any more that I might be deterred from buying an ebike by the need to be tied to a specialist dealer to keep it going.

 

[albion]

Being a man, I have carefully avoided reading the instructions, so, no, I am not sure , but, it is possible to run the chain backwards via the pedals.

My bike is a Specialised Turbo Vada EL if that helps, it is a "mid drive", but, not a Bosch.

https://support.specialized.com/turbovado/en/components-compatibility/turbo-system
I gathered. Logic said it was there. Some appliances now supply 1 page 'cheat sheets' for the masses.
If the display is different model, it will still have a walk mode, am near sure. Handy if like me, the kitchen sink is carried.

 

[Dadam]

On the Bosch Active Line you definately can run the chain backwards via pedal, though I don't do it often as I normally lube it when its on the stand for cleaning.

Well you live and learn. My Cube Reaction is my only experience of mid drive ebikes and so I assumed (wrongly it turns out) that most were like that.

 

[BoldonLad]

https://support.specialized.com/turbovado/en/components-compatibility/turbo-system
I gathered. Logic said it was there. Some appliances now supply 1 page 'cheat sheets' for the masses.
If the display is different model, it will still have a walk mode, am near sure. Handy if like me, the kitchen sink is carried.

This what I have: https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/turbo-vado-sl-40/p/188201?color=319620-188201. I will try the "long press" for walk assist next time I am out riding it (currently confined to barracks with an achilles tendon problem)

 

[albion]

If it has that bizarre looking, no screen, single button operation, then walk mode would be via the app.
Edit -https://support.specialized.com/turbovado/en/components-compatibility/turbo-system
And it might be a tap and hold on the 'up power' handle bar button. The opposite of safety logic.

 

[youngoldbloke]

"updated software". This is where my enthusiasm for a potential future ebike parts company with my expectation of a simple machine that can be fixed by the roadside if necessary. Does what is essentially just a bike with a motor and some sensors need a system which has software that needs updating? I, and many others, have probably had bikes that we've owned for years without the expectation of them becoming obsolete within a relatively short time, living with or upgrading any shortcomings.

Are ebikes likely to become just as disposable as mobile phones or other similar consumer electronics when support ends for whatever proprietary operating system they have? I remember being flabbergasted when the first car I owned with an electronic handbrake was having some issues with it and my local VW dealer offered a software update "for only £125, sir". A software upgrade for a handbrake. Hmm. Cycling is my refuge from all that nonsense and it would be a shame that once I can't get up them thar hills so easily any more that I might be deterred from buying an ebike by the need to be tied to a specialist dealer to keep it going.

Agreed. Seems there is no choice however. I either ride an ebike or stop cycling. I have Ribble and Orbea e-road bikes with the Mahle X35 system. Updates are a dealer only pay-for option unless you purchase the required cable for a very considerable sum, and apparently not a fool-proof process even then. Of course 'servicing' bikes has increasingly become a dealer activity in recent years, what with the development of ever more complex gearing systems, internal cabling, integrated handlebars, hydraulics and so on.

 

[BoldonLad]

"updated software". This is where my enthusiasm for a potential future ebike parts company with my expectation of a simple machine that can be fixed by the roadside if necessary. Does what is essentially just a bike with a motor and some sensors need a system which has software that needs updating? I, and many others, have probably had bikes that we've owned for years without the expectation of them becoming obsolete within a relatively short time, living with or upgrading any shortcomings.

Are ebikes likely to become just as disposable as mobile phones or other similar consumer electronics when support ends for whatever proprietary operating system they have? I remember being flabbergasted when the first car I owned with an electronic handbrake was having some issues with it and my local VW dealer offered a software update "for only £125, sir". A software upgrade for a handbrake. Hmm. Cycling is my refuge from all that nonsense and it would be a shame that once I can't get up them thar hills so easily any more that I might be deterred from buying an ebike by the need to be tied to a specialist dealer to keep it going.

Not just E-bikes, isn't Shimano Di2 an electronic system of gear shifting?

 

[albion]

https://www.cyclinguk.org/news/statement-proposed-changes-e-cycle-regulations

Not many for it.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

To be fair to Bosch the software does not need to be updated as it will just keep working (I hope!!!)

It is not like networked things like mobile phones that can be hacked or anything - as they have no network connection

It is just that if the software is up to date then any problems or extra features can be sorted out

WIth Raleigh/Bosch I do object to it only being doable by authorised dealers via a special connection - or something

If it has a USB port then I don;t see why there cannot be a "user mode" connector so users can at least see their own data

 

[classic33]

https://www.cyclinguk.org/news/statement-proposed-changes-e-cycle-regulations

Not many for it.

VED for electric vehicles set to introduced next year as well.

 

[the snail]

I know. The report erroneously reports on an increase in acceleration which is obviously wrong.

All this will do is increase motor weight, that defining the continous wattage available.

It wouldn't make any difference to weight, the difference in power is mostly down to how much current the controller puts through the motor. The biggest difference in performance would be increased torque, better performance on hills, and good for cargo bikes. Probably zero chance of this happening. I think changing the law on throttles would be a good move for people who struggle to pedal.

 

[albion]

The extra heat generated leads to a need for a much bigger heatsink. Same for the controller.