Croix de fer

[mythste]

I could also do the same to the Temple and get it under 10kg!!! For a steel frame with a Brooks saddle on it, that's quite outstanding, and it's cheaper than the croix de fer 30

Good point!

I suppose if I was in your shoes I would need to remind myself I've got a top end "race" bike and I'd want whatever I get next to be different enough to have a seperate use. It's so easy to stress about weight but once you're moving it makes sod all difference getting from A to B. I had my Croix De Fer loaded up and tipping the scales at 45kg a few weeks back. It took me a little longer than normal but I had just as much fun.

 

[Chris Long]

Im split between both. Someone on our club bash said why do I want steel? get a Cannondale CAADX. But the whole point of this bike is to make me ride differently. I'm often out smashing it at 24mph thinking when was the last time I went out and looked around at the landscape!!! its just a blur usually.

I like both the Croix de Fer and the Temple. But at that price, and coming in a bit cheaper, the retro look of the Temple may well win. I just emailed them and said it may feel like more of a tourer compared to the CDF. They reckon its more the other way round. They do gravel races on them. Not that that's what I want to do but makes you think. I have a 44 mile round trip commute. Fine in the summer on a quick road bike, but in winter...

 

[Chris Long]

but unfortunately titanium at £1750 is lower grade and heavy :-/

 

[vickster]

but unfortunately titanium at £1750 is lower grade and heavy :-/

Not lower grade (there’s basically one grade until you go silly) nor heavy? My Ti is certainly Lighter than CdF (not least as a carbon fork)

 

[Chris Long]

hmmm, interesting, noooo no no no no, no more choices!!!! :-)

I love the Temple, my heart says the Temple
My head says the Croix de Fer if I can get the 30 at 1700

 

[vickster]

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXTEMV3RIV1700BW/planet-x-tempest-rival1

Super heavy at 9.7kg

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXT...-gravel-road-bike-sram-force-1-hrd-700c-wheel

Even weightier at 9.2kg

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBOOPICKCX1/on-one-pickenflick-sram-force-1-cyclocross-bike

Or if you want 22 gears for 9.6kg
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/EBOOPICKRIV22HRD/on-one-pickenflick-sram-rival-22-hrd-cyclocross-bike

 

[Chris Long]

Very interesting

 

[Chris Long]

They are actually quite nice bikes, maybe more race orientated for what I'm looking for....

 

[vickster]

@ianrauk has a Planet X discbraked Ti, not sure which, he rides distance at speed but not racing

Is a single chain ring gravel bike actually race oriented?

 

[Chris Long]

Now I'm thinking...
But, I think retro may win. I'll have a proper look at them

 

[Chris Long]

Very race geometry though

 

[vickster]

Very race geometry though

How so? I go on how the bike feels to ride!
They're different models too

 

[Chris Long]

Cyclocross. Low front end

 

[vickster]

Spacèrs and a flipped stem

The Tempest is an 'adventure' aka gravel bike?

 

[vickster]

I have one of these (albeit specced with handbuilts, SRAM Rival and TRP brakes)

https://www.spacycles.co.uk/m1b0s21p3845/SABBATH-AR1-Disc-105-(5800)-TRP-HY-RD

Spa don't do C2W though, so would need cash (or credit card)