Cricket thread

[User482]

I reckon we have seven top quality players. It's not enough.

 

[srw]

Wearing my impossibly optimistic hat, I reckon Stokes is someone who learns by starting with a mistake and then learns from it.

I was talking to an ex-colleague last night, one of whose relatives plays at country level. She reported that he and Stokes had been sent home early from a youth tour to Australia for breaking curfews and drinking too much.

It seems he's another young man with a problem who hasn't learnt from mistakes - but an outrageously talented one.

 

[green1]

Is wood still injured? He would have been in my squad even if hes only fit for a couple of games. Pace and different to everyone else.

 

[Aperitif]

Stokes
Foakes and
Woakes;
all blokes

Crane
and
Ball to do
the wrecking.

AustrALIa was made for Moeen

Owzat?

 

[nickyboy]

Joe Root (capt), Alastair Cook, Mark Stoneman, Dawid Malan, Gary Ballance, James Vince, Ben Stokes, Jonny Bairstow (wk), Ben Foakes (wk), Moeen Ali, Chris Woakes, Stuart Broad, James Anderson, Jake Ball, Mason Crane, Craig Overton.

Cook, Stoneman, Ballance, Root, Vince, Stokes, Bairstow, Ali, Woakes, Broad, Anderson

I can live with Ballance at 3, but I'm not sure between Vince and Malan at 5. Bowling looks set with backup seamers to bring in later when the old pit ponies get a bit tired

 

[User482]

Cook, Stoneman, Ballance, Root, Vince, Stokes, Bairstow, Ali, Woakes, Broad, Anderson

I can live with Ballance at 3, but I'm not sure between Vince and Malan at 5. Bowling looks set with backup seamers to bring in later when the old pit ponies get a bit tired

Vince will continue to make a pretty 35 or so, then edge to slip. Ballance will continue to get stuck in the crease and be out LBW. Neither seem to be able to work out a solution to fundamental flaws in their techniques.

 

[rich p]

Vince will continue to make a pretty 35 or so, then edge to slip. Ballance will continue to get stuck in the crease and be out LBW. Neither seem to be able to work out a solution to fundamental flaws in their techniques.

Indeed but is there anyone better around county cricket?
Hildreth never gets a shout but he's getting on these days.
Luke Wells had a decent season for Sussex but too much of a punt in Oz for a debutant.
Sam Robson was talked about getting a recall.

 

[User482]

Indeed but is there anyone better around county cricket?
Hildreth never gets a shout but he's getting on these days.
Luke Wells had a decent season for Sussex but too much of a punt in Oz for a debutant.
Sam Robson was talked about getting a recall.

The selectors haven't found anyone decent since 2014, when Moeen was first picked. Either there isn't much talent in the county game, or the selectors aren't very good at their jobs. Further back, they did seem to be able to find players, who despite modest county records, had the right stuff for test cricket. Michael Vaughan is the classic example.

Thinking about technical flaws, some of the best players in the history of the game had techniques you wouldn't recommend to a youngster learning to play. Graeme Smith looked like a walking LBW decision but he found a way to choose his shots so that he succeeded.

 

[Dayvo]

I'm struggling to see how our batsmen are going to 'dominate' the Australian bowlers.

If fit, they have Cummins, Hazlewood, Starc, Pattinson, M. Marsh (and probably 1-2 we/I haven't heard about) on the fast bowling side, then Lyon, O'Keefe, Maxwell to offer spin.

On the other hand, they probably have as 'strong' a batting side as we do: Smith & Root, Warner & Cook, Wade & Bairstow (although I'd personally go for Buttler), Marsh & Stokes, Handscombe & Stoneman, and that's more or less it.

Ballance and Vince, IMO, shouldn't be touring, as they lack the technique and, consequently, the confidence to survive and thrive on the fast bouncy wickets of Perth and Brisbane. Adelaide is a shirtfront, with Sydney and Melbourne being the nearest to English wickets/conditions.

Hameed would have been worth a shout, but IIRC he busted his finger again.

I'm not too familiar with the likes of Malan, Crane and Overton (following on cricinfo is limited), but I felt that James Porter (of Essex - not that I'm biased) might have been in with a chance as he's taken 75 (and counting) wickets in this, his first, season.

Anderson and Broad, I suspect, will have this last series then call it a (Test) day, but should perform well, as usual. Stokes, if looked after, should do well, both with bat and ball, as will Moeen. The third seamer, Woakes has performed well and is improving as a lower-order batsman. I'm surprised Finn hasn't got the nod, but doubtless someone will break down and he'll be flown out.

I feel it'll be a close series, but for England to win, they're going to need contributions from all the top 7 batsmen.

 

[Aperitif]

Duckworth and Lewis are often available for selection...a scorching game at the Oval in progress tonight.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Duckworth and Lewis are often available for selection...a scorching game at the Oval in progress tonight.

Do you know when they'll abandon play? It's just started to rain in Greenwich and it looks like it'll stick.

 

[Aperitif]

Do you know when they'll abandon play? It's just started to rain in Greenwich and it looks like it'll stick.

Now will be ok. England are ahead on the DL calculation. Lewis (not the rainy one) is the unluckiest player today...bound to surpass King Viv but for an unlucky ankle injury. He would probably been the first to 200 in a 50 over international.

 

[Dayvo]

Now will be ok. England are ahead on the DL calculation. Lewis (not the rainy one) is the unluckiest player today...bound to surpass King Viv but for an unlucky ankle injury. He would probably been the first to 200 in a 50 over international.

It's been done already - 6 times (7 if you include the ladies).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_One_Day_International_cricket_double_centuries

 

[Aperitif]

It's been done already - 6 times (7 if you include the ladies).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_One_Day_International_cricket_double_centuries

Sigh. In England, Dave - the green and pleasant land of yore. (Bloody foreigners!)

 

[Beebo]

Stokes and Hales both dropped until further notice. Whatever that means.
Looks like the ECB are covering all bases.