COVID Vaccine !

[vickster]

Is there a point to all this reportage from Belgium?

Maybe he’s Belgian?

 

[midlife]

rumour is that our hospital will get enough to vaccinate 500 very soon. I guess that 500 NHS frontline staff and patients...

 

[Archie_tect]

We're bloody well stuck then, who gives the first one?

Dart gun...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAqIMA_V6tI_start_24

 

[marinyork]

rumour is that our hospital will get enough to vaccinate 500 very soon. I guess that 500 NHS frontline staff and patients...

Batches of 975. So that probably means that another local hospital will get 500 too.

I looked at the list of trusts/hospitals this morning and was surprised a neighbouring trust was also one of the 50.

 

[tom73]

Batches of 975. So that probably means that another local hospital will get 500 too.

I looked at the list of trusts/hospitals this morning and was surprised a neighbouring trust was also one of the 50.

A number on the list are surprising some are going to have cover a wide area.
Van-tan today said regular has not yet approved slipping the batches up so who knows.
It was a great help when they also said some may get it at next week hospital outpatients appointments.
Bet outpatients staff are really looking forward to tomorrow morning.
Unless the Oxford and others that more more useable don't came quickly. A mass roll out just won’t happen anytime soon. If we are going to need this say every year they are the only workable option not to say the cheapest.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

We're bloody well stuck then, who gives the first one?

Eric Bristow. A three dart finish to score 975.

 

[randynewmanscat]

How long before UKIP Brexit Party Reform and associated cling-ons jump on the anti vaxx bandwagon? I'll give it until this afternoon.

I will be putting in many boring hours over the next months reporting Youtube videos and bookface groups and posts. It is important that the conspiracy dolts are drowned out by the normal populace. Its hard work, I had to report a Youtube video several times before it was taken down.
It was a video taken from a small community radio station web feed and contained much FUD from a woman who is anti-vax and stupid with it. The account that put the vid up was less than a month old and has since been closed, not by Youtube.
Her name is mentioned somewhere else on the thread, she is a known loony but has a following. The radio station was censured by OFCOM for not countering her assertions but no sanction was imposed. The depressing thing is that she is one of many actual UK citizens peddling the same fictions rather than a Kremlin controlled bot or human troll.
The noise will get louder as the months pass and all normal people with a functioning brain need to step in to quell the FUD, do not ignore it, it will not go away if you do.

 

[Unkraut]

I will be putting in many boring hours over the next months reporting Youtube videos and bookface groups and posts. It is important that the conspiracy dolts are drowned out by the normal populace.

Good for you. I thinks Burke's famous saying The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing very much applies here. I would also include countering nonsense spouted in YT comment sections and the right-wing tabloids, with the goal of getting people to think.

 

[rockyroller]

37,000 Americans died from covid in November alone, over 3,000 Americans died from covid yesterday alone, & our company's owner thinks everything will be back to normal in 3 weeks due to the vaccine ...

 

[rockyroller]

since chump & his supporters think covid is a hoax they should be banned from getting the vaccine

 

[marinyork]

A number on the list are surprising some are going to have cover a wide area.
Van-tan today said regular has not yet approved slipping the batches up so who knows.
It was a great help when they also said some may get it at next week hospital outpatients appointments.
Bet outpatients staff are really looking forward to tomorrow morning.
Unless the Oxford and others that more more useable don't came quickly. A mass roll out just won’t happen anytime soon. If we are going to need this say every year they are the only workable option not to say the cheapest.

Yes it was clarifiedby the MHRA. Apparently some batches are 4785 and not just 975.

The stuff said yesterday I took to mean the oxford vaccine may not get approved till early January.

Mass roll out is Jan to April by the sounds of what JVT, John Stevens, Raine and Lim said. It was interesting noises yesterday that there may be a phase 2 of vaccines after April running into the autumn or there abouts. The PR of managing expectations.

BioNTech said yesterday that the UK may get a bit more than 5 million doses in December, which includes the 800,000 which it sounds like is being kept for the second dose as there may be a gap to tranche 2.

 

[Nigeyy]

I've also been thinking that I should encourage anti-vaxxers to keep to their values. I'd hate for any vaccine to be more available for people who actually want it and appreciate and take note of science and data

since chump & his supporters think covid is a hoax they should be banned from getting the vaccine

 

[MrGrumpy]

A work colleague of mine is getting the vaccine next week, he does maintenance work in a care home on his days off. Both him and his wife caught the virus back in March .

 

[tom73]

Yes it was clarifiedby the MHRA. Apparently some batches are 4785 and not just 975.

The stuff said yesterday I took to mean the oxford vaccine may not get approved till early January.

Mass roll out is Jan to April by the sounds of what JVT, John Stevens, Raine and Lim said. It was interesting noises yesterday that there may be a phase 2 of vaccines after April running into the autumn or there abouts. The PR of managing expectations.

BioNTech said yesterday that the UK may get a bit more than 5 million doses in December, which includes the 800,000 which it sounds like is being kept for the second dose as there may be a gap to tranche 2.

That's how I see it many are going to be in for a long wait and the sooner that that cut's though the better. The list of who and when has already changed be it a small one. But that may need to happen again as we get to know more a the vaccines out in the real world. Managing expectations need's to get carefully worked on both in terms of this and the effect rolling this out will have on primary care services. The letters that are starting to go out re over 80's make's it clear that GP's that are taking the lead in this will only going emergency work. Which will have a knock on effect when the vaccine get's into the pharmacy service. Which is some time off but they already have enough to do without extra knock on effects.

The bun fighting is already starting and simple clear information need's to come out quickly and in ways that cut though to different demographics. That press briefing the other day was an important one and it’s great to be given clinical facts on the vaccine. It’s not the experts fault but someone should have helped them prep for it. it was like some stuffy old school lecture crossed with a meeting you just want to end. It was public that needed to know not a room full of experts.

The conditions set out yesterday for splitting batches and sending them out don't allow for much breathing space. The original waste figures may need to be looked at again. The more that we learn about the logistics of this the more questions it brings and the higher the manpower needed gets. The idea that it's just an injection which the government are happy to push needs to change in the same way that they are happy to push the mass testing as some sort of quick fix way out.

 

[mjr]

I've also been thinking that I should encourage anti-vaxxers to keep to their values. I'd hate for any vaccine to be more available for people who actually want it and appreciate and take note of science and data

Four pages of government advert in the local free newspaper this week, set out as news articles on how the vaccine was developed and checked for safety before approval.