Coronavirus outbreak

[Ming the Merciless]

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Out on the bike today because of cabin fever (I've not been out on the bike for a month) unfortunately due to some road closures my route took me through the city centre.

The number of people I saw with masks covering their mouth but not their nose was definitely more than the number of people I saw wearing them properly - quite a few wearing them as chin ornaments too.

Glasgow is meant to be in lockdown, zero sign of that today.

You were cycling indoors?

 

[Edwardoka]

You were cycling indoors?

No. The terms of the Glasgow lockdown involve not mingling with other households or going into other people's homes, not ceasing all outdoors activity. I stayed on-road the entire time except when I stopped at one point to have a break. When someone started approaching where I was sat I got up and moved away.

I was well clear of everyone. I wish the same could be said for other people. Pavements and buses packed with nose-peekers. It's going to go exponential again soon, I fear.

 

[Tanis8472]

2 more here today up from yesterday.

I get the feeling I'm going to loose my holiday this tome. It was moved from April.
And yes it's a uk holiday, cos apparently that what I should do now according to some folk.

 

[stowie]

Professors, doctors, oncologists, nobel prize winners......those with their views soon censored. I am really very middle of the road. Not anti-vaxxer, nor a conspiracy theorist, just anti-hysteria, anti-lockdown & anti mask as I believe the unintended consequences of these actions to be far worse than the virus.....I've not changed from my first post.

What is the unintended consequence of wearing a mask or face covering that is far worse than the virus?

 

[Eziemnaik]

What is the unintended consequence of wearing a mask or face covering that is far worse than the virus?

False sense of security
Same principle as with plastic gloves
Which BTW are not recommended for example in many food preparation businesses exactly for this reason

 

[PeteXXX]

Maybe we have more testing stations than other areas, but these are my nearest places..

 

[Ming the Merciless]

No. The terms of the Glasgow lockdown involve not mingling with other households or going into other people's homes, not ceasing all outdoors activity. I stayed on-road the entire time except when I stopped at one point to have a break. When someone started approaching where I was sat I got up and moved away.

I was well clear of everyone. I wish the same could be said for other people. Pavements and buses packed with nose-peekers. It's going to go exponential again soon, I fear.

My question was related to your comments about masks. I didn’t realise people had to wear masks outdoors where you are.

 

[Edwardoka]

My question was related to your comments about masks. I didn’t realise people had to wear masks outdoors where you are.

They don't, but if you're going to wear one you should wear it correctly. The chin ornament comment was tongue-in-cheek, I'd guess it's for people who are going inside and outside and can't be bothered taking it on and off.

As I say, there were plenty of nose-peepers on buses and at bus stops, which is where it will really have the biggest impact.

 

[MarkF]

What is the unintended consequence of wearing a mask or face covering that is far worse than the virus?

I used a plural of actions, no point in singling out masks. The hysteria caused a crazed NHS bed clearance, which directly caused the deaths in care homes, I alluded to this as it was happening and "last days " patients were quickly gone too. I would like to see data for patients under 70 who arrived into hospital from "normal" life and died from Covid-19, I think it would be astonishingly low. The lockdown has done nothing to move us forward (Sweden) but has huge human and economic consequences and masks (no scientific proven benefit) are now used as a placebo/visible tool to endorse the governments crazy doubling down of a horrible mistake ( I don't buy the conspiracy theories).

It's only going one way, I think most know that now and this threads vitality also points that way. It would have been good for a proper debate to have been had, but "idiot", "plonker" & "braindead" unsurprisingly didn't do much to give confidence to the very small handful of doubters (not deniers) to express their views. Although..........I fully understand how people reacted given the mainstream news bias and political revenge opportunity, but the longer this farce goes on, the more people we will kill, who wants to be complicit in that?

I took comfort in reading some views all the way through this but particularly liked the non hysterical input from these 3.

Professor Karol Sikora - Oncology specialist.
Dr Ron Daniels BEM Intensive care doctor.
Michael Levitt - Biophysist/Professor.

 

[steve292]

Professor Karol Sikora - Oncology specialist.

I don't know much about the others but he is a nasty piece of work and quite possibly a fraud

 

[mjr]

Maybe we have more testing stations than other areas, but these are my nearest places..

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We've two in our nearest town and one in each of the next three nearest.

They've been idle every time I've been past but loads of people are posting online that they can't get an appointment. Something seems very wrong.

 

[Julia9054]

We've two in our nearest town and one in each of the next three nearest.

They've been idle every time I've been past but loads of people are posting online that they can't get an appointment. Something seems very wrong.

I've read that it is down to lack of processing capacity rather than lack of testing capacity

 

[Tanis8472]

Can't get test here. I'm classed as essential worker

 

[mjr]

I've read that it is down to lack of processing capacity rather than lack of testing capacity

And if you believe that's the only problem, I've a tower I'd like to sell to you!