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tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
It's a difficult one which has to be well thought out and debated. It's a fine line between state censorship and state enforcement on internet providers and content providers of it's social responsibilities. In the end it all come's down to empowering people to understand how to navigate the online world. Which will only happen with better education particularly most digital skills are still way too much about how it works and not how to understand what your looking at and how your online actions can effect others.
On the anti vac thing the NHS are really concerned they recently did a lot of work into what was really going on and what they need to do it counter it. They have accepted that they have been slow and don't do enough online to counter it. The work also highlighted the need to train staff so they can better inform people who see stuff online. E.g many see don't give your kid that it has x in which is a poison. It may have but it's so tiny it's not an issue. Many staff may not even know the fine detail how much we are really talking about. so can't really explain and put fear to rest. The vac training is all about the clinical stuff and which ones you need, when, stock management and who can and can't have them. That not saying it's too basic as it's not. Vac's are much more than a quick jab. But it has little about how to counter act much of the misinformation other than saying it's safe and don't worry. A lot of the anti stuff is why more than that taking fewer to a whole new level. Much of it look's to many on the face of it really detailed "science" so must be true. The don't worry message wont cut though you need to match it with an even better true science reply in a way that they can understand.
 
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deptfordmarmoset

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Location
Armonmy Way
Allegedly, WHO are being slow to accept growing evidence about how the disease is airborne. Meanwhile, we have a whole bunch of aerosols in the cabinet.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...dence-emerging-of-airborne-coronavirus-spread
 
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midlife

Guru
Allegedly, WHO are being slow to accept growing evidence about how the disease is airborne. Meanwhile, we have a whole bunch of aerosols in the cabinet.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...dence-emerging-of-airborne-coronavirus-spread

Yep, tricky one. The restart of hospitals and dentistry has assumed that airborne transmission only occurs when we do something invasive and produce an aerosol. If airborne transmission happens when people breath and speak then that could be a bit of a game changer.

Full PPE for every patient contact......
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Just heard via a colleague and NHS, that Sheffield isn't far off going back into Lockdown !

There are a lot of rumours. These seem mostly based on w/e 28th June 24 cases per 100,000 and the week before which was 20. It is in the top 10 highest local authority areas but rising. Maybe new figures are unofficially circulating already. John Wright goes on tv all the time saying he's worried about Bradford/Kirkless/Sheffield/Doncaster etc.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Yep, tricky one. The restart of hospitals and dentistry has assumed that airborne transmission only occurs when we do something invasive and produce an aerosol. If airborne transmission happens when people breath and speak then that could be a bit of a game changer.

Full PPE for every patient contact......

Agree with you a real rethink will be needed for sure. The growing body of evidence is pointing to a rethink is getting closer.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Agree with you a real rethink will be needed for sure. The growing body of evidence is pointing to a rethink is getting closer.

Much more worrying than dentistry is Boris said on LBC that gyms and possibly beauty salons which include intimate facial procedures might be able to reopen soon. They need a frigging plan.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Yep, tricky one. The restart of hospitals and dentistry has assumed that airborne transmission only occurs when we do something invasive and produce an aerosol. If airborne transmission happens when people breath and speak then that could be a bit of a game changer.

Full PPE for every patient contact......

My brother is a dentist. He co-owns the practice, and they are split into two teams, so if one of the 'team' goes down, they all quarantine, and the other team can carry on. To get round this, they work 2.5 days a week per team, and can see a maximum of 5 patients, with an hour or so between to clean.

He has a full respirator on ! Sounds horrific. They are still limited to treatments. Nothing too invasive.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Sunak announces discount worth up to £10 per head for eating out in August
Sunak says his final measure has never been tried in this country.
It is an “eat out to help out scheme”, offering customers as discount worth up to £10 per head when they eat out from Monday to Wednesday in August.
 

Slick

Guru
Sunak announces discount worth up to £10 per head for eating out in August
Sunak says his final measure has never been tried in this country.
It is an “eat out to help out scheme”, offering customers as discount worth up to £10 per head when they eat out from Monday to Wednesday in August.
That's us saved then.
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
Shadow Chancellor was funny. Usually Opposition Chancellors stand up and complain bitterly about spending plans. Today she couldn't do much more than "er thanks for doing what we said had to be done".
 

midlife

Guru
My brother is a dentist. He co-owns the practice, and they are split into two teams, so if one of the 'team' goes down, they all quarantine, and the other team can carry on. To get round this, they work 2.5 days a week per team, and can see a maximum of 5 patients, with an hour or so between to clean.

He has a full respirator on ! Sounds horrific. They are still limited to treatments. Nothing too invasive.

Yep, how we work and play has changed beyond recognition :sad:
 
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