Coronavirus outbreak

[Adam4868]

Hold on a minute did Johnson not say he wanted to see bustle and activity ?

 

[Edwardoka]

I understand people traveled from the midlands to Poole and Bournemouth.Cant think of anything worse than sitting in a car for god knows now long just to sit on a jam packed beach.

Just seen on the news Matt Hancock is warning we will close beaches if public don’t social distance.

"We may have no option but to re-bolt the stable door," says Matt Hancock as horse enters orbit of Alpha Centauri.

 

[All uphill]

Pubs are only enjoyable when there are some people there to hang with and bs about stuff. Or if there is some pool to be played or darts to be thrown. Otherwise, nothing wrong with having a friend over to the house, break out a bottle of single malt and sit in the back garden or deck while socially distancing and getting snockered. And it’s cheaper too.

For you. A busy pub is something I'd go a long way to avoid.

Funny how different people are.

 

[Mugshot]

Cold War Steve

 

[randynewmanscat]

The country has real "last days of the Roman Empire" energy right now.
Where's Attila the Hun when you need him?

The IMF will have to stand in as Attila.

 

[Beebo]

England isn’t in lockdown. Not by a long way. Metre plus is social distancing, Ha ha ha.

We are still in lockdown. It just stupid people have listen to the idiotic government and cherrypicked the advice they want to hear.

If you are on furlough because it’s too dangerous to go to work how can it be safe to crowd on a beach?

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

View: https://twitter.com/missmonikasmith/status/1276015736209592321

Full thread is worth reading

 

[tom73]

The US look about to be losing it all again states are reporting some real concerting new case numbers. One already at 97% critical care bed capacity. Many look to be stoping plans to unlock. total caesura numbers have now toped 20 million. Experts believe the real figure is 10 times that reported. It should ring arms bells here and make people think but sadly it won't the public just like the government now clearly look to bored with all and have moved on they just want t get to pub. I'm sure covid will be along offering free rounds to them all.

 

[vickster]

We are still in lockdown. It just stupid people have listen to the idiotic government and cherrypicked the advice they want to hear.

If you are on furlough because it’s too dangerous to go to work how can it be safe to crowd on a beach?

Lots of businesses are still closed

 

[Rezillo]

Mrs R and I were discussing a couple of days ago the curious silence from the science advisors over the last week and the contrast with the week before when there were clear signs of unrest from them over the speed of the end of lockdown.

We wondered if they had been shut up, perhaps by warnings of total economic collapse for extending or renewing lockdown and that whatever happened next, Johnson has made it clear it would have to be lived with somehow but not by shutting down the economy.

If so, we thought that Johnson's tactics would be to then try and force blame for any rise in cases onto the general public for not following distancing guidelines rather that it being down to him opening everything up.

We also thought we could expect to see some warnings coming out about how a second lockdown would be a disaster, in order to reinforce the "I'm not to blame, there's no choice" position for any upturn in cases.

I didn't expect this to start as early as yesterday! The Governor of the Bank of England wheeled out to give a rather vague, light on detail presentation about how close the first lockdown came to disaster. I expect Johnson will pat him on the back for that and ask him to go back in his cupboard.

....and so it continues.

Westminster briefing today - it's up to councils to control beach numbers. How on earth do they do that with hundreds of thousands of people coming from all over the country? What led to people doing that in the first place?

Its' a blame-shifting exercise away from Cumming's 'ignore lockdown' example and Johnson's over-rapid lockdown easing being the triggers of all of this. I wonder if we'll hear from the SAGE behavioural analysts as to if they consider government messaging responsible?

 

[Ming the Merciless]

We are still in lockdown. It just stupid people have listen to the idiotic government and cherrypicked the advice they want to hear.

If you are on furlough because it’s too dangerous to go to work how can it be safe to crowd on a beach?

Lockdown to me, means you can’t leave house for specific reasons and that time outside must be limited. That is not the case in England. Yes some business can’t open yet but unless you work for them or use their services it is no different to normal.

England

Drive anywhere you like, at any time - yes allowed
Spent as much time outside as you want doing what you want - yes allowed
meet unlimited people outside - yes allowed if you didn’t plan it
meet unlimited people in shop - Yep no problem

It‘s not exactly what you'd call lockdown anymore.

 

[MntnMan62]

For you. A busy pub is something I'd go a long way to avoid.

Funny how different people are.

Well, "busy" isn't in my description of a good pub. I'd prefer to hang out in a pub where I can sit at the large wooden bar with a friend or three and no one sitting anywhere near us, essentially having the place to ourselves essentially. I avoid crowded places in general. People around here love to flock to the beach in the summer. I despise the beach in the summer because I ........ wait for it........hate people. I much prefer heading up to the mountains to escape the crowds and enjoy the solitude on a mountain lake.

 

[johnblack]

Interesting news reported today in The Times that the death rate for coronavirus patients in English hospitals has fallen to a quarter of the level at the peak of the outbreak, but they don't really know why the proportion has dropped so much.

 

[Beebo]

Lockdown to me, means you can’t leave house for specific reasons and that time outside must be limited. That is not the case in England. Yes some business can’t open yet but unless you work for them or use their services it is no different to normal.

England

Drive anywhere you like, at any time - yes allowed
Spent as much time outside as you want doing what you want - yes allowed
meet unlimited people outside - yes allowed if you didn’t plan it
meet unlimited people in shop - Yep no problem

It‘s not exactly what you'd call lockdown anymore.

Crazy isn’t it.
Stay Alert and use your common sense.
Not seeing much of that anywhere.

I can’t wait to witness the common sense on Saturday 4th July when the pubs reopen.

 

[Rezillo]

Interesting news reported today in The Times that the death rate for coronavirus patients in English hospitals has fallen to a quarter of the level at the peak of the outbreak, but they don't really know why the proportion has dropped so much.

One explanation might be that those who are most vulnerable are still largely observing lockdown, such that admissions are now weighted to those who are deemed less vulnerable and in a better position to cope with the disease.

It will be interesting to see what the experts come up with.