Coronavirus outbreak

[Rusty Nails]

The basic plan should already have been in existence in a big A4 ringbinder marked 'In case of pandemic' on the shelves of the DoH.

I would have thought that this should be obvious to any government, including the ramifications of isolation and potential equipment/drug/PPE shortages. The modelling of how to deal with a pandemic should have included the things that could go wrong.

 

[PK99]

but it wouldn’t have been opened if Richard Horton’s advice had been followed

From his twitter account of 24 January



He has now been down the road to Damascus and it is all “we should have spotted this earlier” stuff. 20-20 hindsight.

and morally reprehensible on his part.

It is worth noting that despite his role at the Lancet he has very limited medical experience. He practiced from 1986 to 1990, since when he has worked in medical publishing and politics. Career highlight have been supporting and defending Richard Wakefield and Sir Roy Meadow.

 

[matticus]

"The basic plan should already have been in existence in a big A4 ringbinder marked 'In case of pandemic' on the shelves of the DoH. "​

I would have thought that this should be obvious to any government, including the ramifications of isolation and potential equipment/drug/PPE shortages. The modelling of how to deal with a pandemic should have included the things that could go wrong.

You're right: but did you check your party's election manifesto for this before voting? Did anyone?? Ever?

 

[Blue Hills]

I never said Salvini was pro Eu. Read it.
Varoufakis has been criticising EU institutions for years, yes, while always being pro EU.

Am still waiting for a reply to my question about renzi.
Until i get a reply i will rather doubt your political insights.

At last, a five point plan...
...to ramp up testing.

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Are you sure it's not a five year plan?

 

[kingrollo]

Remind me - whose decision was it to stop testing in the first place ?

 

[Rusty Nails]

You're right: but did you check your party's election manifesto for this before voting? Did anyone?? Ever?

It should be a basic and essential strategy that is carried out by the civil service in collaboration with scientific experts, and runs across governments, and not a party political manifesto item.

I didn't check that any of them would do the basics. The manifesto would need to be 500 pages long to cover all those.

 

[kingrollo]

I think companies need to be certified to work on ventilators - I know a lot of people who have been called into work and the "its to work on the ventilators" - seems highly dubious to me.

 

[kingrollo]

At last, a five point plan...
...to ramp up testing.

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I think a plan consisting of 5 tests would be a start.

 

[Blue Hills]

Just heard that boris may not after all be putting in an appearance tomorrow as suppose dly still has symptoms. Journos need to ask what symptoms. I thought his symptoms were mild. Can't see how a cough and loss of taste can inhibit him facing the public and press. Can do it remotely of course. And after his baby kissing election drive he has been pretty remote in any case.

 

[kingrollo]

Jeeze......why doesn't he take a leaf from Nike's book........JUST F'ING DO IT

Thats a photoshop job is ever there was one !!!!!!!

 

[Rezillo]

but it wouldn’t have been opened if Richard Horton’s advice had been followed

From his twitter account of 24 January

He has now been down the road to Damascus and it is all “we should have spotted this earlier” stuff. 20-20 hindsight.

I have to agree.

However, the Lancet website has been a goldmine of first-hand reports and stats from China and elsewhere. These directly resulted in us buying a freezer and stocking it in mid February on a just in case basis. I wouldn't claim any great prescience - it was a risk-free precaution because we would use it regardless of what happened.

 

[mjr]

I think companies need to be certified to work on ventilators - I know a lot of people who have been called into work and the "its to work on the ventilators" - seems highly dubious to me.

It depends what part. The certificates needed to manufacture subassemblies like hygienic cases or reliable power supplies are widely held. That's not working directly on the ventilator mechanism but you still need them for most approved current ventilators.

 

[mjr]

Belgian (RTBF) news: surprisingly similar to here with the latest death toll (that anyone interested can look up) but also concerns about care home outbreaks, problems accessing mortgage repayment holidays (pictured) and business loans with the banks being criticised for rejections, and the death of a baby in the USA (pictured). I didn't see the full bulletin due to a storm disrupting reception.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Jeeze......why doesn't he take a leaf from Nike's book........JUST F'ING DO IT

Get CoronaVirus done.

 

[Eziemnaik]

Am still waiting for a reply to my question about renzi.
Until i get a reply i will rather doubt your political insights.

Are you sure it's not a five year plan?

Renzi, despite being as pro EU as they come from Italy had no reserves criticising initial response of ECB ( now somewhat corrected through PEPP) and EC (which is only now allowing for the suspension of fiscal rules)
Therefore my comment stands, not only far right anti EU politicans are not very happy with the response of the union