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marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
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Maybe a constitutional crisis in the UK due to the death of the next in line to be head of state would be unhelpful right now so they tested him?

I'm not an out and out royalist but I'd prefer to not see any further upheaval right now

That's not a constitutional crisis. Normal functioning throughout most of history. A lot of first borns never made it onto the throne or died earlier than expected.
 
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roubaixtuesday

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Does that mean we won't get an update on the 15 minute testing devices....that seem to alternate from being immanent to being months away..

I think we have lost control of this at all levels - nobody really knows what they are doing. Almost every bit of guidance given seems to be followed by a raft of exceptions - making the initial advice useless
 

winjim

Smash the cistern
It would be churlish not to wish he gets through this quickly and without some of the more unpleasant symptoms others have had. It's difficult not to feel some irony here though.

As he has tested positive, and all measures possible must have been taken to prevent him getting this due to his office, we can at least hope that the message that this virus is highly contagious might get through the thick skulls of those who still just don't or won't get it.
I honestly hope he makes a full recovery, but my concern is that if he only suffers 'mild' symptoms, he will consider that validation of his 'taking it on the chin' idea.
 

Unkraut

Master of the Inane Comment
Location
Germany
That is of course a very real danger. Saw a politician last night, now recovered, but who had to be put on a ventilator for a couple of days. She said you breath in but it feels as though no air is going into your lungs. Must be awful. Whilst Johnson couldn't complain I wouldn't actually with this on him.
 
It would be churlish not to wish he gets through this quickly and without some of the more unpleasant symptoms others have had. It's difficult not to feel some irony here though.
I guess I'm churlish then.

He has endangered a lot of people, both indirectly and directly.

Indirectly, through inaction, the catastrophic mitigation policy, the slow-unfolding farce of the not-really-locked-down lockdown, and his mismanagement of medical supplies and the mobilisation effort.

Directly, by "I shook hands with everybody" in a hospital that is treating covid patients while taking NO precautions whatsoever.

Hancock has tested positive too and I expect many more in the HoC will follow suit and will have gone forth and spread it amongst their constituents. It's doubtful to say that Johnson is patient zero within HoC but he has certainly infected a lot of people.

It was only a few days ago that he jokingly referred to the project to procure ventilators as "Operation Last Gasp". Gallows humour, perhaps, but given that the only-recently scrapped mitigation policy was to "take it on the chin" and allow lots of old and immunocompromised to die, it's hard to see it in that context.

Again, he literally just botched the EU's joint ventilator procurement project by going "the dog ate my homework" aka "sorry the email was in my spam box".

If he gets terribly sick (which he won't), he will not be one of the ones dying in a conference hall because the hospitals are full and all of the ventilators are in use.

To use his predecessor's language, "let me be clear:" Fark him.
I don't want him to die from this, I want him to learn from this.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
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Logopolis
Does that mean we won't get an update on the 15 minute testing devices....that seem to alternate from being immanent to being months away..

I think we have lost control of this at all levels - nobody really knows what they are doing. Almost every bit of guidance given seems to be followed by a raft of exceptions - making the initial advice useless

It is alleged that 340 000 of the 640 000 antibody test kits were, contrary to other reports, bought from China. When tested Spain alleges they were 30% accurate and not 80% which is what they wanted.

It may not be directly applicable to the UK as we have companies designing and making antibody tests here. Or maybe the same problems will crop up. I don't know. We will find out soon.

30% is bad. That'd be about the same as chance of a representative sample of suspected coronavirus test candidates in various countries.

There appears no comment on the accuracy of the 300 000 kits from other countries.
 
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