Coronavirus outbreak

[Edwardoka]

Has any government anywhere done this? Is it working?

The US stimulus package includes $1,200 cheques to everyone (but I don't know whether that's a one-off or has preconditions attached or is means-tested) and every time I go near American politics I want to claw my eyes out

I cannot speak for the veracity of this, I'm struggling to find any other articles that mention these measures that Italy is putting in place:
https://www.euractiv.com/section/co...-parental-leave-grants-for-the-self-employed/

As it stands, the stimulus package the UK government has announced seems to be the broadest and most far-reaching but the stuff announced today is riddled with corner and edge cases and I have no faith that these cases can or will be handled with a response more meaningful than ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Someone who ends up on £394/mo UC simply because their have yet to file a tax return will likely end up going bust and being evicted/having their house repossessed, whereas if they had started a couple of months earlier they would be supported.

That is what is arbitrary.

 

[Pale Rider]

Lots of self employed people who spent the last three years trying to convince HMRC they earned next to nothing will now spend the next three months trying to convince them they earned a fortune.

 

[Adam4868]

Lots of self employed people who spent the last three years trying to convince HMRC they earned next to nothing will now spend the next three months trying to convince them they earned a fortune.

Really ? Why have you such a low opinion of the self employed.How would they convince them of earning a fortune when it's taken of their last accounts.
As for me no money until June...I don't think I'll be cracking the champagne yet !

 

[Pale Rider]

Really ? Why have you such a low opinion of the self employed.How would they convince them of earning a fortune when it's taken of their last accounts.
As for me no money until June...I don't think I'll be cracking the champagne yet !

A little bit of satire, Adam.

June is the back stop date, they aren't going to back up all successful claims to May 31, then press the payment button on the stroke of midnight.

Yours might well get done a lot earlier.

 

[Brooks]

I was self employed for 30 years and I wish I had a pound for everyone that told me how much I earned!
Bloke in my cycling group uses a bike mechanic he knows as he's not charged VAT, bangs on about the bloke not paying tax? I had to remind him that he wasn't either!! Bloody hypocrite.

 

[Rocky]

@Pat "5mph" ..... I do hope you manage to avoid the virus. It sounds like it’s the last thing you need at the moment. Stay safe. I think I can speak for all CC members in sending you our love

 

[Tanis8472]

Sorry Tanis, I don't know what you mean.

sorry,

i work at a wholesaler 'owned' by tesco.
i never really shopped at tesco as others are closer and my mrs works at asda.

they are basically rewarding people who spend the most at tesco, the most.

im still dealing with customers and folk weve never seen before, some of which seem to be ignorant of distancing. they dont seem to care.

 

[Johnno260]

My son has been self employed since graduating - 1 year and 9 months. He has 1 year's set of accounts so this is no good to him. As a musician, he has lost all his playing and teaching income and is currently working as many shifts as he can in a care home to make ends meet.

if he is a music teacher is he able to setup virtual lessons? My children are still doing their classes via a weblink.

Even the fitness Center we use is using a weblink and doing virtual martial arts and fitness classes.

 

[Johnno260]

In other news, my wifes 97yr old grandma had her hip surgery, they replaced the hip they were speaking about pinning it, she was awake quickly and doing her physio the next morning, they tested her for the virus as she had a cold and it was negative. It’s small news in comparison I know but it’s huge news for the family and my kids who totally adore her.

 

[Julia9054]

if he is a music teacher is he able to setup virtual lessons? My children are still doing their classes via a weblink.

Even the fitness Center we use is using a weblink and doing virtual martial arts and fitness classes.

Most of his teaching is via a music service and is going into schools. Alot are group lessons. He does have a couple of private pupils (adults) and I am not sure if he is still teaching them remotely. Much of his income comes from agency work as a performer.
My younger son is in his final year at RNCM. He is having his horn lessons via zoom.

 

[Edwardoka]

In other news, my wifes 97yr old grandma had her hip surgery, they replaced the hip they were speaking about pinning it, she was awake quickly and doing her physio the next morning, they tested her for the virus as she had a cold and it was negative. It’s small news in comparison I know but it’s huge news for the family and my kids who totally adore her.

Hopefully she recovers quickly and can be back home soon.

 

[Pale Rider]

Most of his teaching is via a music service and is going into schools. Alot are group lessons. He does have a couple of private pupils (adults) and I am not sure if he is still teaching them remotely. Much of his income comes from agency work as a performer.
My younger son is in his final year at RNCM. He is having his horn lessons via zoom.

The grey suit who the government put up on Question Time to deal with self employed assistance queries seemed to suggest those with fewer than three years of accounts may still qualify.

'Come to us with what you have,' was roughly what he said.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

The grey suit who the government put up on Question Time to deal with self employed assistance queries seemed to suggest those with fewer than three years of accounts may still qualify.

'Come to us with what you have,' was roughly what he said.

He did.

Also interesting was his hint that the Self-employed will be required to pay tax at the same rate as everybody else in the future.

 

[Johnno260]

Most of his teaching is via a music service and is going into schools. Alot are group lessons. He does have a couple of private pupils (adults) and I am not sure if he is still teaching them remotely. Much of his income comes from agency work as a performer.
My younger son is in his final year at RNCM. He is having his horn lessons via zoom.

He should contact the music service and see if they are able to do the zoom type lessons from what I have seen they work well.

 

[mjr]

Swiss news: new prediction that intensive care beds will run out next Thursday; train services cut further, no TGVs, road traffic has fallen about 50%, good for animals and health not for the economy; summary of US experience including big unemployment increases; formation of grand coalition government in Israel; Montreux jazz festival postponed;