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Buck

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Deliveries are killing community pharmacy, not so much pharmacy2u (they are a terrible organisation, let's be clear about that).

A lot of community pharmacies are providing deliveries. It's the big boys i.e. Pharmacy 2U / Boots / Well etc. that take the profit from the dispensing fees but don't provide any of the community pharmacy services that are causing the harm especially now the pharmacies have had their contracts changed and reduced income but required to provide the same levels of service.
 

vickster

Legendary Member
The bloke in the flat above me works in a call centre for a mobile phone provider. I would have presumed that's not a 'key' role, but apparently it is.

Up until last night, a friend who delivers building supplies was told he was a 'key' worker and had to go to work... he's extremely relieved that he's finally been told to stay home by his employer.

People who are told by their bosses to come in to work pretty much have to do so until told otherwise.

Sidiq Khan has expressed concerns regarding the amount of 'key' workers... maybe the definition is far too broad and needs strictly curtailing.
Communications :smile: I'd like my mobile phone (or indeed landline) to be sorted if I have an issue so I can keep in touch with pretty technophobe elderly parents

I would hope they are minimising the numbers to technical staff and a skeleton staff
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Perhaps I should inquire about delivery for the next one.

The system will come under enormous strain even with community groups or others such as the army delivering prescriptions.

Please, please do not, unless you feel the risks to yourself are astronomically high (that may be the case).

You can get someone else to pick up a controlled drug on your behalf showing ID. It's routine in pharmacy.
 

DCLane

Found in the Yorkshire hills ...


That's about a mile from me. Basically it's specific community that regularly comes into conflict with the police.

It also doesn't help that there's an intra-community drugs war going on following BBC's Hometown programme: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p07bn33z/hometown-a-killing

This was one dealer vs. another, the next two night's it's been setting cars alight. Nine were torched yesterday.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
I'm usually reasonably across all the government requirements but one thing isn't clear to me

We are allowed to go out for one walk per day. We aren't allowed to make any unnecessary journeys. So does that mean that this daily walk (or run, or bike ride) has to start at your home?

Not a problem for me and that was my plan anyway. The reason I ask is that I'm on a birdwatching forum and there is chat there about defining the birdwatching as their "daily walk" (doesn't seem unreasonable) but....they talk about driving to wherever to do this.

I can see this being an issue where lots of town dwellers don't want to walk in the middle of a town, understandably, and drive to wherever for their daily walk. Unless the govt. make it very clear that the walk must be from home that is

I can't see anything that covers this either. For the odd one who won't hardly see anyone then maybe it's within the spirit of the law

As you say If it got to the point of loads just walking in one place with no hope or will to keep to 2m and the police feel like moving them on then they will.
New powers will make it even more clear to officers at the moment they can use what they have. They may have to careful even more soon or find they are held for 48 hours for testing and if PHE want it quarantined for up to 28 days.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
Deliveries are killing community pharmacy, not so much pharmacy2u (they are a terrible organisation, let's be clear about that).

Will do.

I've used the same privately owned pharmacy for years.

I suspect it may have changed hands a couple of times, but is still privately owned as far as I can tell.

The system will come under enormous strain even with community groups or others such as the army delivering prescriptions.

Please, please do not, unless you feel the risks to yourself are astronomically high (that may be the case).

You can get someone else to pick up a controlled drug on your behalf showing ID. It's routine in pharmacy.

Oh, might be better to go back to plan A and collect it.

The journey could fairly be described as necessary, it's very short, and I will combine it with the food shopping.

If I was the pharmacy I would be considering extra precautions, such as limiting numbers in the shop, or serving them at the door.

Last time I was in, half the floor area had been cordoned off from the public by moving a couple of the counters.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
I can't see anything that covers this either. For the odd one who won't hardly see anyone then maybe it's within the spirit of the law

I think further clarification will probably say leaving your village/town/area/city which I'd say is already implicit. So regrettably unless you live next to a bird spot or it's in your city then it's a no.

This was a common one in Italy. Oh I'm just walking the dog on the beach and oh sorry officer I seem to have accidentally walked all the way to the next town. Wow yes I never spotted the road check over there, honest it wasn't why i went on the cycle track or beach. I accidentally walked and walked and called in to see my auntie or a friend and got lost of the time. Forget the 40,000 fines reported. This went on a lot and the authorities cottoned on to it.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Deliveries are killing community pharmacy, not so much pharmacy2u (they are a terrible organisation, let's be clear about that).

Slack service is not helping either a few my way are bad with even the basics of customer service.
Only got to look at the plies of meds ready to collect that behind the counter. To see many can't cope with the capacity before all this started.
If they have change of staying open they are going to need to up the capacity. How most can do it is the big question more robotic dispensing maybe ?
Have to say the coop online pharmacy has been spot on.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
I think further clarification will probably say leaving your village/town/area/city which I'd say is already implicit. So regrettably unless you live next to a bird spot or it's in your city then it's a no.

This was a common one in Italy. Oh I'm just walking the dog on the beach and oh sorry officer I seem to have accidentally walked all the way to the next town. Wow yes I never spotted the road check over there, honest it wasn't why i went on the cycle track or beach. I accidentally walked and walked and called in to see my auntie or a friend and got lost of the time. Forget the 40,000 fines reported. This went on a lot and the authorities cottoned on to it.

I think that will be only option before everyone starts to fall in love with idea.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Slack service is not helping either a few my way are bad with even the basics of customer service.
Only got to look at the plies of meds ready to collect that behind the counter. To see many can't cope with the capacity before all this started.
If they have change of staying open they are going to need to up the capacity. How most can do it is the big question more robotic dispensing maybe ?
Have to say the coop online pharmacy has been spot on.

It's going to hell in a handcart and a separate thread from Coronavirus. A lot of the issues in pharmacy are intimately related to social care and other things going on elsewhere - it's just we don't talk about them.

You may not have to worry for much longer as I think many community pharmacies will go under. I expect staff to walk out or call in sick (or actually be sick on a grand scale) when precautions aren't taken, closure like conditions are induced as they have been in Italy and people think screw it, I'm not doing this for minimum wage with all this stress to die from coronavirus. It's right that hospitals, gps and care homes are prioritised ahead of pharmacies in terms of testing kits, but I would be very surprised if government didn't pretty much totally forget about community pharmacy.

You can free up capacity (enough to cope) in community pharmacy imho if you stop selling GSLs and have systems to streamline dispensing/bagging/giving out without the usual fun and games of distractions. A pandemic may allow this. A minority of the public with be very grumpy about this, everyone else will be fine. A lot of pharmacies in the big chains have very mismatched skill sets though and this is a big problem.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
After this morning I was wondering if the penny has dropped.
Local tesco was busy they look to have been quick about it and the floor markings have been joined with delivery crates at the tills so you have no choice but keep your distance with staff. Spotted a few people in gloves and 2 with masks.
One of them was at the till buying his cigs. :rolleyes:
A guy behind me who clearly had no idea what this distance idea is. Clearly thought as he waring gloves he'd be fine.

Town was almost empty. Bank staff stood waiting outside only letting so many in people in the queuing all looked to be ok with the 2m rule.
Did not fancy trying my luck and Morrison so went to M&S (boy our food bills are going up) Mostly empty got what I need stood behind the tape at the tills. Came home

PPE and mass use really is not a good idea. On the way home spotted one postman sat having a sandwich still wearing gloves.
A delivery driver at the lights mask and gloves. Who once stopped removed his gloves to use his touch screen PDA.
 
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