Coronavirus outbreak

[Levo-Lon]

I never usually catch anything, but the flu and coughing virus decimated my work place, and no-one was sent home. I was off a week with the flu as I couldn't get out of bed, then about 3 days with the cough - I dragged myself in as stuff needed doing.

Try and avoid MIL as we just get 'jobs', even now she is in a nursing home. Insists we water the plants and fill up the window bird feeder (despite her having staff that probably did it earlier in the day) - obsessed with watering potted plants. She'd have us doing the garden if she could.

Our staff get free flu Jabs ,health workers.
I've got them free since 2003 due to my UC, don't know whether it has worked or not.
I had flu in 94 and 98 , everything else has been a cold or virus.
I'm very conscious about where you put your hands when at work...don't rub your eyes ,wash hands properly ect.

I'm of the impression a lot don't going by the way our staff go down with everything and anything..

 

[Inertia]

600,000-700,000 die from flu each and every year, and yet it doesn’t even make it to a footnote in the news. You are correct - corona is more deadly than regular flu (based on data to date - 2% mortality is multiple times higher than normal), but only in the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions.

But your final point is pertinent - let’s see where we actually get to with this - I hope we look back at this as a huge over reaction (in the same way the 2003 SARS was)

But will it have been an overreaction or is it’s effect minimised because the reaction was effective?

 

[Fab Foodie]

Too posh to self isolate....

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...italy-trip-coronavirus?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

[Illaveago]

It is a bit worrying what a person said on ITV Breakfast this morning.
He had visited Milan recently and was unaware of the outbreak in Italy. He noticed people there wearing facemasks. At the airport before his return flight people were being checked for the virus but when he landed at Luton there was nothing. He even said that an Italian couple who were sitting in front of him had flu symptoms but were just let through.
When he arrived home he thought he was going down with flu and rang 111 who told him to go to his doctor's surgery. So he waited in amongst normal patients without any precautions until a nurse came out to see him . Then panic!
He is now at home waiting to hear about the results of his test .

 

[kingrollo]

It is a bit worrying what a person said on ITV Breakfast this morning.
He had visited Milan recently and was unaware of the outbreak in Italy. He noticed people there wearing facemasks. At the airport before his return flight people were being checked for the virus but when he landed at Luton there was nothing. He even said that an Italian couple who were sitting in front of him had flu symptoms but were just let through.
When he arrived home he thought he was going down with flu and rang 111 who told him to go to his doctor's surgery. So he waited in amongst normal patients without any precautions until a nurse came out to see him . Then panic!
He is now at home waiting to hear about the results of his test .

I think the problem with the UK could be that a good many people are still in "Its all a load of bollx" mode - not just Coronavirus, but health and safety, speed cameras, regulation in general - politicians - "its all a load of cobblers isn't it"

So far from panic mode "Its just like the flu ain't it" will be the prevailing attitude. - which might just backfire.

 

[tom73]

Mass panic or just a passing fob it off won't help anyone. If you are at higher risk or live with someone who is then it makes perfect sense.
To take a measured approach and prepare for someone to come down with it. For the rest of us be aware of how things are developing and what basic step's to take. If you think your coming down with it or maybe at risk of having it. For the health of everyone inc the health care staff who have no choice to put themselves at higher risk. Don't just wonder into your GP's or A and E. Phone 111 and you will be told what to do and when you need to do it.

As some have said already basic hand washing is the best line of defence. Facemarks don't work even in clinical environments they have little effect after a short time frame. For most of us the the other type are over kill. Hand gel no matter how much you plaster on is not an effective substitute for soap and water. This virus maybe many things but it's pretty crap outside the body and upping the basics really is more effective than many may think.

Plenty of real information is around if you really want to find it. Public Health England are ready for this sort of stuff and more information is coming out as thing's develop. In this age of instant information it's easy to get hot headed about why is not more being done in an instant. Incidents like this don't work that way rushing out information or imposing over the top measures just make it worse. If needed the response can be steeped up but even then it's based on well thought out planning and guided by the best information available.

As for 73 towers well over the years Mrs 73 has nursed some pretty nasty infectious disease. She know's more than most to keep herself as safe as she can at work. I've done and delivered plenty of infection control training to know the basics. I'm not over worrying just aware of how things are moving and up'd the hand washing.I've a few extra bit's in the cupboard but no more than I normal have at this time year.
If information changers then we will take note but as it stands we are taking a measured approach based on fact's, official information , and any extra guidelines that come Mrs 73's way.

If you want to carry on with dr google and FB then go for it. Carry on and full your boot's with hand gel and your spare room with mask's.
But it wont help anyone other than amazons profits. Or you can take a balanced approach based on fact's, real information and that way you can help everyone including yourself.

 

[Dave7]

Don’t all sleep in the same bed. Stuff like that.

You try telling that to my wife and 4 mistresses

 

[fossyant]

In the lift just a few minutes ago with a 'health' colleague - her daughter has just come back from Milan and can't remember if she had the dry cough before going out, as they'd been drinking that much whilst away. It's coming !

 

[vickster]

In the lift just a few minutes ago with a 'health' colleague - her daughter has just come back from Milan and can't remember if she had the dry cough before going out, as they'd been drinking that much whilst away. It's coming !

Except Milan isn’t one of the affected places?
UK... so far 13 confirmed Covid cases, 6000 people tested...5987 colds / other viruses / no illness

 

[MichaelO]

I think your figures overstate the deaths from flu - I’d be interested to know where they came from. Wikipedia suggests it’s between 250-500k.

From the updated research, as published in the Lancet. The 250k-500k is recognised as understating the number of deaths.
Source: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)33293-2/fulltext

Tell that to the South Koreans, the Chinese and the Singaporeans and see their reaction. The hysteria, as you call it, is justified. A 3% mortality rate, seasonal flu is less than 1%, and people are more infectious before showing symptoms is a cause for concern. Don’t take this lightly, no-one in Asia is for a very good reason.

The number of deaths in Mainland China to mid-Feb tell me that we need to focus on protecting the elderly. For the core of the population, vigilance/cleanliness is key (as it is any winter!).

 

[kingrollo]

From the updated research, as published in the Lancet. The 250k-500k is recognised as understating the number of deaths.
Source: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)33293-2/fulltext

The number of deaths in Mainland China to mid-Feb tell me that we need to focus on protecting the elderly. For the core of the population, vigilance/cleanliness is key (as it is any winter!).

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i suppose 50-59 are the older but more mobile people.

 

[fossyant]

Except Milan isn’t one of the affected places?
UK... so far 13 confirmed Covid cases, 6000 people tested...5987 colds / other viruses / no illness

See post #427 above

 

[I like Skol]

Just heard a radio ad for Saga cruises, 35% off!
Anybody fancy getting away from all the panic ....

 

[fossyant]

Just heard a radio ad for Saga cruises, 35% off!
Anybody fancy getting away from all the panic ....

Stop it, I qualify for Saga now. Already had 'post' from them.

 

[fossyant]

So anyone stockpiling beans yet ?

I'm not stockpiling my brake pads yet as Uber Bike still haven had their Corona Virus sale on race matrix pads. I recon Planex X will have a 'special' sale shortly.