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MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
You seem to be the one who is constantly referring to the value of lives vs a recession. Why doesn't the oracle give us his opinion?
Well, less than the virus directly causes would be good. Not that I've constantly referred to lives v recession nor said that nurses were well paid @tom73. What's your opinion/figure?
 

Rocky

Hello decadence
If you want to listen to anyone, probably better to listen to these experts:


View: https://twitter.com/drdamiandowney/status/1241799333835571202?s=21
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Right i’m going to pick my words carefully.
To all the braindead who think this is a game it’s not. Most who get this virus 4 out 5 are ok without any medical help. So one out of 5 will need help. The same is true for the at risk group. If you want to try and find out if your the one then fine. Just don’t risk everyone else in the process.

I’m not the only one on here who has a wife or other close relation. Who now finds themselves on the front line. About to face lord knows what having to deal with not just a single one in five but rooms full. Not for one of but day after day. They are putting there life at risk to keep every one safe Inc you. Equally I won’t be the only one who finds your outright disregard for them beyond believe.

If you become a member of the one in five club they will care for you unlike when you had chance to care for them.

Others inc me have already this but let’s have another go for you. Respiratory failure is not quick , pain free or peaceful way to die.
With the numbers already happening your likely to die alone and staff won’t have time to hold your hand and make you feel safe or indeed sadly pain free. You may think your well and be fine even if you do join the club. But the body when already feeling crap from illness often don’t need much of weekness how ever small. To turn a minor illness into something worse.
So like I say go ahead and try it but don’t treat rest of us as lab rats or expect the likes of my wife to care a flying pig about you.
 

Buck

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Here’s a view on the rates between the UK and Italy:-

Deputy Chief Medical Officer for England Dr Jenny Harries also warns against a "direct comparison" between virus case rates in Italy and the UK, saying this should be done with "caution".

She says that the case fatality rate is around 10% in Italy, as opposed to 4% in the UK - but it depends how cases are counted.

She says there are differences in testing, with more serious cases being tested in the UK, for example.

She adds that they feel the eventual mortality rate for the virus will be around 1%.
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
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PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
Right i’m going to pick my words carefully.
To all the braindead who think this is a game it’s not. Most who get this virus 4 out 5 are ok without any medical help. So one out of 5 will need help. The same is true for the at risk group. If you want to try and find out if your the one then fine. Just don’t risk everyone else in the process.

I’m not the only one on here who has a wife or other close relation. Who now finds themselves on the front line. About to face lord knows what having to deal with not just a single one in five but rooms full. Not for one of but day after day. They are putting there life at risk to keep every one safe Inc you. Equally I won’t be the only one who finds your outright disregard for them beyond believe.

If you become a member of the one in five club they will care for you unlike when you had chance to care for them.

Others inc me have already this but let’s have another go for you. Respiratory failure is not quick , pain free or peaceful way to die.
With the numbers already happening your likely to die alone and staff won’t have time to hold your hand and make you feel safe or indeed sadly pain free. You may think your well and be fine even if you do join the club. But the body when already feeling crap from illness often don’t need much of weekness how ever small. To turn a minor illness into something worse.
So like I say go ahead and try it but don’t treat rest of us as lab rats or expect the likes of my wife to care a flying pig about you.

My wife is upstairs, quarantined since Tuesday.

I've been ok.

Till today.

Currently running temp of 37.3C and rising.
Breathing heavy, feeling achy.
I was told by my chest consultant 6 months ago the I cannot afford any more catastrophic chest infections.
Hence the cocktail of drugs I am on and antibiotic rescue packs I carry.

If it is Covid-19 and I go into hospital in the next few days, I do not expect to come out.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
All the best @PK99.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
My wife is upstairs, quarantined since Tuesday.

I've been ok.

Till today.

Currently running temp of 37.3C and rising.
Breathing heavy, feeling achy.
I was told by my chest consultant 6 months ago the I cannot afford any more catastrophic chest infections.
Hence the cocktail of drugs I am on and antibiotic rescue packs I carry.

If it is Covid-19 and I go into hospital in the next few days, I do not expect to come out.

Oh mate that is grim keep warm , keep up your fluids , eat what you can and continue with your meds unless they tell you otherwise. I so hope it’s not this virus stay positive and stay strong. Many one here will feel the same.
Good luck
 

Rezillo

TwoSheds
Location
Suffolk
Or a reaction to the reality that those dying are massively in the "underlying medical condition" group ... not 100% .. but pretty close ... we are wiping out our society and economy for a virus that may ... just may, .. outstrip the "Winter Flu" virus deaths ...... Millions of jobs lost , thousands of firms closed .. for ever ... for what ???
How many of the deaths in Italy are of under 70 otherwise healthy people ?
Come on Boris ...tell us ...

http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/id/e53946e2-c6c4-41e9-9a9b-fea8db1a8f51

Over 44,000 cases analysed, 33% of deaths had no comorbidity. Take a look at Table 1, plenty of young people there.

https://www.bmj.com/content/361/bmj.k2795/rr-6

The thousands of cases quoted for winter flu are a media confusion over excess winter death figures, not helped by the ONS press release.

Italy is seeing more than our entire winter flu season deaths every single day. I would have thought it blindingly obvious that what Italy and other countries are experiencing is nothing like a bad flu season in the UK.
 
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My wife is upstairs, quarantined since Tuesday.

I've been ok.

Till today.

Currently running temp of 37.3C and rising.
Breathing heavy, feeling achy.
I was told by my chest consultant 6 months ago the I cannot afford any more catastrophic chest infections.
Hence the cocktail of drugs I am on and antibiotic rescue packs I carry.

If it is Covid-19 and I go into hospital in the next few days, I do not expect to come out.
Good luck mate.
 

StuAff

Silencing his legs regularly
Location
Portsmouth
My wife is upstairs, quarantined since Tuesday.

I've been ok.

Till today.

Currently running temp of 37.3C and rising.
Breathing heavy, feeling achy.
I was told by my chest consultant 6 months ago the I cannot afford any more catastrophic chest infections.
Hence the cocktail of drugs I am on and antibiotic rescue packs I carry.

If it is Covid-19 and I go into hospital in the next few days, I do not expect to come out.
Hoping for the best.
 
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