Coronavirus outbreak

[Mugshot]

Does this mean that when we emerge from this, we’ll all look like hippies?

Before and after lockdown:

 

[rualexander]

Sky News report from Italy , it’s says the virus is more like a very bad pneumonia , the Army there have been employed to enforce lock down,
Germany is having 30% higher cases of infection and higher death rate and have been told to open their eyes to the reality.........

If that's what the Sky report said then it's pretty poor quality reporting.
The virus causes pneumonia in some cases, which is what leads to the most severe complications, it isn't 'like a very bad pneumonia'.
According to the figures, Germany is having a lower death rate, possibly due to more extensive testing.

 

[LCpl Boiled Egg]

Before and after lockdown:

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That's not the most recent picture...

 

[Kempstonian]

A study in France had a 100% success rate apparently. Also some Israeli professor say the majority of people have a natural immunity to the virus.

 

[vickster]

Does this mean that when we emerge from this, we’ll all look like hippies?

I think that's pretty optimistic for quite a few of the CC members who've posted pictures of themselves in the past

 

[vickster]

Apparently they have been treating people with Chloroquine with very good results. More trials are being conducted but if successful a lot of research time will be saved as the drug is known to be safe. Who knows, but that's what I saw anyway.

It has been posted up thread a couple of times. It's not without side effects (I take hydroxychloroquine) but most aren't immediate (eg potential issues with eyes after medium-long term use etc)

 

[Rocky]

A study in France had a 100% success rate apparently. Also some Israeli professor say the majority of people have a natural immunity to the virus.

The question is when the drug is given. In this study hydroxychloroquine is being given when people first present with the symptoms and are tested. I’m not sure about its effectiveness when patients are admitted to hospital with major breathing problems.

 

[rualexander]

The antibody test to test who has it lives is believed to be less effective in the asymptotic stages, but it's a lot better than nothing.

That doesn't make much sense.
Presumably you mean asymptomatic.
The antibody test is most useful in confirming who has had the disease and can therefore be assumed to be largely immune and unable to contribute to further spread, and they can return to work and a 'normal' life as much as possible.

 

[vickster]

A study in France had a 100% success rate apparently. Also some Israeli professor say the majority of people have a natural immunity to the virus.

sources required

 

[marinyork]

Didn't someone say 25,000 tests a day in a month's time? If so I believe we will have long been in the midst of a bloodbath - nhs will likely not even have the resource to admit seriously ill patients, let alone test the asymptomatic.

Regarding the Government's reference regarding the antibody test*, does anybody know when might one be shown to work, available for sale, implemented en-masse, and big data AI tracing / isolation going to be realised? Are we sure this wonderful "intention" isn't analogous to building new fire engines when the house is burning, and simply a diversion message currently, e.g. as can be seen when the CMO was asked on Monday at the conference (at 42' and 45'), couldn't and didn't answer why current tests remain seriously short in direct contrast to WHO guidance?

* Nobody currently has this test.

It was said 25,000 tests in a month's time, last week I believe. This was also around the time it said 10,000 tests from tomorrow and then soon and it being I think 6000 last time I checked and around 3000-4000 the days it was being said.

Boris and Trump have been rather vague on antibody tests. The last couple of days is the only time they've gone into much detail on tests. I'm working on the non-informed assumption that it'll be 3 months to implemented en-masse. That is obviously a disaster for this peak. However I'm not a 1-peaker. I see it useful for later stages of the first peak or minimising re-infections or a potentially disasterous 2nd winter peak.

I don't know why we're short on PCR tests. I believe it's basically lab capacity. Some of the stuff on US PCR tests which I don't have time to read is that there seems to have been many technical problems there. Vallance seemed to hint yesterday to a sceptical journalist that the capacity could be upped (towards 250,000) by automation. The bit I wondered about was that I know the swabs are technical to do. What are the practical limits that may create a bottleneck actually taking swabs and where would it come in? I'm quite sceptical on PCR being the only way forward.

 

[Salty seadog]

Johnson spaffs his big chance....

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-prime-minister-brexit?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

My favourite line. Priceless.......
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From Monday, most British parents will be home-schooling their children. Not Johnson, of course – I imagine he doesn’t want to break his own pledge on class sizes.

 

[Rocky]

sources required

Here’s the Nature article on hydroxychloroquine

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-0156-0

Edit: it’s a somewhat difficult read but this is its conclusion - results show that HCQ can efficiently inhibit SARS-CoV-2 infection in vitro. In combination with its anti-inflammatory function, we predict that the drug has a good potential to combat the disease.

 

[Kempstonian]

It has been posted up thread a couple of times. It's not without side effects (I take hydroxychloroquine) but most aren't immediate (eg potential issues with eyes after medium-long term use etc)

Sorry - didn't read the whole thread.

 

[Fab Foodie]

When I was 12 and well behaved i was allowed to watch this:


View: https://youtu.be/zAyjkaFYnzE


Now 57 I didn’t expect to live through it....

 

[Fab Foodie]

I think that's pretty optimistic for quite a few of the CC members who've posted pictures of themselves in the past

Ok, some of us....