Coronavirus outbreak

[Julia9054]

Do you think they should be able right now to go to nightclubs ?

Actually, right now I do.
It's a question of checks and balances. I would:
Open up the hospitality and entertainment industry completely. Ditto clubs, sports and hobbies. Also weddings etc. These can be avoided if people want to.
Keep masks compulsory on public transport and in supermarkets. These are much harder to avoid.
Authorise vaccination for 12 - 16 year olds. Every family's situation is different and this option should be available.
Close schools for the holidays a week early which will reduce the cases in this age group which are currently increasing rapidly. Use the extra time in the empty buildings to upgrade ventilation. End contact isolation in school children and staff on return in September.

 

[Deleted User]

I though marriages were allowed unlimited guests?

If restrictions are lifted on the 19th in England, as of yet there are still limits.

 

[Deleted User]

Steam rallies, Scooter rallies, VW shows/meets/rallies, Classic Motorcycle Shows, Concerts/Gigs, none of these have happened since march last year and I attend around 20 per year yet I don't feel I'm being treated 'unfairly' and 'unlike everyone else' because I'm realistic!

They will all come back in time but you can't have it both ways, "too early to lift restrictions but I can't wait till they do so I can be treated like a Football fan".

Hilarious!

 

[PaulB]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/09/im-an-ae-doctor-covid-patients-are-younger-this-time

It's depressing stuff like this that makes me lose all hope.

This ICU doctor - the front-line of the front-line - is telling us here that Covid-deniers are still denying Covid exists as the doctors are strapping oxygen masks to their faces! He's asking if the very same group they'll be treating for Covid in the future caught it only because they don't believe it exists as these are the very group of people who are predominantly catching it.

It's like people from rural Yorkshire in 1940 refusing to believe the blitz existed because their homes hadn't been bombed and neither had any other home they knew of in their area.

Wards and departments were returning to normal only to now be turning them back into the Covid wards they were previously and we can be pretty sure once everything opens up in eight days, things will of course get considerably worse.

10 hour waits for people having to go to A&E.

Hospitals full to bad-winter capacities in July!

Genuinely exhausted staff with low resilience after 16 months of fighting the Covid battle.

And this is from an unnamed Consultant in an unnamed hospital in the North West. Repeated many, many times around the country, of that I am certain.

 

[Ajax Bay]

It's the Audax that's happening next weekend

As I say, this is a framework imposed by the organiser, not Audax UK, nor any other 'authority'. Pleased that you are going to support the organiser in the way they wish to run their ride.

 

[Ajax Bay]

Keep masks compulsory on public transport and in supermarkets. These are much harder to avoid.
Authorise vaccination for 12 - 16 year olds. Every family's situation is different and this option should be available.
Close schools for the holidays a week early which will reduce the cases in this age group which are currently increasing rapidly. Use the extra time in the empty buildings to upgrade ventilation. End contact isolation in school children and staff on return in September.

Agree with each one of those excellent suggestions, Julia.👍
Got any data on the rate of increase of 12-16 year olds? (Just asking)

 

[mjr]

It's coming home, it's coming home, it's coming, covid's coming home. Footsie fans push into Wembley and try to push into Trafalgar Square says https://www.itv.com/news/2021-07-11...-security-at-wembley-ahead-of-euro-2020-final

 

[mjr]

Just stupid scenes in London earlier today:

View: https://mobile.twitter.com/Urban_Pictures/status/1414241047883001856

 

[cambsno]

Actually, right now I do.
It's a question of checks and balances. I would:
Open up the hospitality and entertainment industry completely. Ditto clubs, sports and hobbies. Also weddings etc. These can be avoided if people want to.
Keep masks compulsory on public transport and in supermarkets. These are much harder to avoid.
Authorise vaccination for 12 - 16 year olds. Every family's situation is different and this option should be available.
Close schools for the holidays a week early which will reduce the cases in this age group which are currently increasing rapidly. Use the extra time in the empty buildings to upgrade ventilation. End contact isolation in school children and staff on return in September.

Cant argue with any of that.

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

Posting again, 100,000 infections a day = 10-20,000 long covid cases a day.

amid rising cases Prof Altmann warned that it is not yet known if vaccinations will protect people from long-term symptoms.
"If we're heading into a phase of 100,000 cases per day, and, we're saying that 10-20% of all infections can result in long Covid, I can see no certainty that we're not brewing those long Covid cases despite having a vaccinated population," he said.

Long Covid: Early findings bring hope for diagnostic tests https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57776010

 

[matticus]

I though marriages were allowed unlimited guests?

That's how I treat our marriage, not everyone agrees with me

 

[Bazzer]

Well the rising infection rate seems to be affecting my mother's care workers. Speaking with my sister yesterday, our Mum is supposed to be visited four times a day, but last week, on at least two days, there were no carers for the allotted slots. Simply not enough staff because they were infected, *pinged by the track and trace app*, or their children were sent home from school, so couldn't work.

*Edited to add this.

 

[bitsandbobs]

Do you think they should be able right now to go to nightclubs ?

The Netherlands reopened nightclubs two weeks ago. They've now shut them again in the face of skyrocketing infection rates.

On the first night they reopened, there was one club where 1/4 of all people who went there got infected.

 

[Kajjal]

The Netherlands reopened nightclubs two weeks ago. They've now shut them again in the face of skyrocketing infection rates.

On the first night they reopened, there was one club where 1/4 of all people who went there got infected.

Makes you wonder what the fall out will be based on that in the UK from football supporters both at Wembley and in large crowds round the country at large.

 

[pawl]

Makes you wonder what the fall out will be based on that in the UK from football supporters both at Wembley and in large crowds round the country at large.

Exactly the same out come I would guess But then again Boris knows best