Coronavirus outbreak

[mjr]

Tune in at 8pm tonight for more rules that idiots can ignore (BJ announcement):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55534999

I'd best get the pub takeaway early then, before he possibly announces their full closure from Wednesday and provokes another last-chance crush tonight/tomorrow.

Question for those of you who watch iSAGE and the like more closely than me: is there recent public analysis of what scenarios now contribute how much to infection rates?

 

[LCpl Boiled Egg]

Tune in at 8pm tonight for more rules that idiots can ignore (BJ announcement):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55534999

He'll probably rock up late as usual, then announce something that should have already happened will begin in a day or two.

 

[BoldonLad]

I'd best get the pub takeaway early then, before he possibly announces their full closure from Wednesday and provokes another last-chance crush tonight/tomorrow.

Question for those of you who watch iSAGE and the like more closely than me: is there recent public analysis of what scenarios now contribute how much to infection rates?

Personally, have not come across a definitive list, but, Hospital acquired (Covid) infections are, I believe, approximately 20%, not sure what the figures are for Cycling along the road, visiting park, visiting place of worship, visiting supermarket, visiting pub, ...etc

 

[Beebo]

This thread started on 23rd January 2020.
Almost 12 months later we appear to have learned nothing.
Australia and NZ have faired far better than us, how have we wasted a whole year.
My worry is that public opinion will not stomach much more.

 

[mjr]

But I also feel for businesses if there is another lockdown..again. But hopefully this one will be the last one, if the jabs can be administered quickly until/during Easter to the vulnerable and then the masses

I think that is unlikely: as I understand it, the target is 1m/week which with 70% uptake and 12 week spacing means (I think) 15 more weeks to finish the most vulnerable and 58 weeks to do the masses. 15 weeks puts us at 19th April. Easter is 4th April.

Currently they seem to be vaccinating about 350k/week, which would mean 24 weeks to finish the most vulnerable (the 12 week gap dominates) but over 2½ years to do the masses.

Let's hope that tonight's announcement includes some revolutionary improvement to vaccination!

 

[AuroraSaab]

Do they cite a reputable source, or is "X cures covid"/"X causes covid" the next Mail health reporting fad?

Is it the same drug (Ivermectin) that last April provoked an Australian state health minister to warn people not to drink anti-lice shampoo? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04...r-coronavirus-drug-treatment-warning/12121578

It's this study on reinvention rates.
https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(20)30781-7/fulltext#.X_JOJTXYnCs.twitter

And yes, the drug was Ivermectin. Just because it is in the Mail doesn't automatically mean it's nonsense. I guess my point is that continuing research is finding positive avenues of treatment for covid, and immunity after infection, if only for a period, is promising news.

 

[DaveReading]

Currently they seem to be vaccinating about 350k/week, which would mean 24 weeks to finish the most vulnerable (the 12 week gap dominates) but over 2½ years to do the masses.

By which time a proportion of those initially vaccinated will be dead after their immunity has worn off ...

 

[Adam4868]

No need to tune in...he has his messengers.

View: https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1346110314224340993?s=19

 

[kingrollo]

This thread started on 23rd January 2020.
Almost 12 months later we appear to have learned nothing.
Australia and NZ have faired far better than us, how have we wasted a whole year.
My worry is that public opinion will not stomach much more.

Get Brexit done and a few articles about dinghy's crossing the channel and the voters will be back on board.

 

[pawl]

No need to tune in...he has his messengers.

View: https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1346110314224340993?s=19

Well that’s fifteen minutes of my life I won’t get back

It has taken me longer to read Sturgeons comprehensive details of Scotland’ than it did for Boris to tell England his plans It makes me wonder if he lives in this world or la la land.

 

[fossyant]

No mention of University

 

[classic33]

Clap for carers cancelled. Replaced by public executions of rule breakers live at 5 on Fridays, one from each council area.

We've this!

 

[Rocky]

No mention of University

The FT has this:

University students will be told not to return to their colleges until the middle of next month at the earliest, while GCSE and A-level exams this summer are expected to be cancelled.

Sorry behind paywall: https://www.ft.com/content/016f2df7-aaa7-447b-9fc5-339f3683cfb8

 

[pawl]

No mention of University

Just seen a reporter University’s are included except for courses that need face to face tutorial Would have thought they are more a source of infection.

 

[kingrollo]

Whatever happened to all the testing in Liverpool ? Did that work/flop/not happen ?