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roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
Update.
The whole family have now tested positive.
My wife tested on Sunday, me on Tuesday and my son tested yesterday.
I’m feeling rough but don’t seem to have the chest infection yet.
It’s solved the family Christmas conundrum because we will be in isolation until
Christmas Day!

Sh!t

Best wishes
 
Jesus 36k new cases today ! - how high could this get before it falls back ?
 

Julia9054

Guru
Location
Knaresborough
Latest bright idea for schools.
So now, on the last day of term, we are replanning most of our lessons to teach online for the first week back.
Meanwhile, the poor headteacher is attempting to work out how to create and run what is effectively a field hospital for testing 2200 students and staff twice in that first week.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Which ever numbers you use the new Year is not going to start well. If only the government would stop running after the next silver bullet rapid flow tests being the latest in the long line of ill thought out ideas. We'd have some hope of a possible plan to get us out the mess.
Without a real plan any time soon come the new year you can forget ramming up the vaccination program. The NHS just won't be able to do everything it just won't have the staff to go round.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
Which ever numbers you use the new Year is not going to start well. If only the government would stop running after the next silver bullet rapid flow tests being the latest in the long line of ill thought out ideas. We'd have some hope of a possible plan to get us out the mess.
Without a real plan any time soon come the new year you can forget ramming up the vaccination program. The NHS just won't be able to do everything it just won't have the staff to go round.
The staffing problem looks like it is going to be a staffing crisis come mid-January:sad:
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
Excellent, sobering summary of nationwide data from independent sage


View: https://mobile.twitter.com/IndependentSage/status/1339980363465175041
 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
lost somewhere
Update.
The whole family have now tested positive.
My wife tested on Sunday, me on Tuesday and my son tested yesterday.
I’m feeling rough but don’t seem to have the chest infection yet.
It’s solved the family Christmas conundrum because we will be in isolation until
Christmas Day!
Very best wishes to you and your tribe.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Due to social distancing the NHS will have 11,000 less beds than the year before. Add in staff shortages , staff isolating , having to try and still provide some sort of normal service. Many hospitals are now at 90 capacity already and rising along with cases ever grownung It’s going to be a bumpy ride here on in and some won’t make it.:sad:
 

Unkraut

Master of the Inane Comment
Location
Germany
The infection rate went through the 30000 mark yesterday. I hope the stricter measures soon start to take effect. General feeling that perhaps the government should have reacted quicker and been less obsessed with preserving Christmas - although from the best of motives considering restrictions over the last year.

Needless to say the death rate has gone up as expected, but the intensive capacity of the hospitals in some areas is approaching the upper limit, and the word triage is starting to be banded about, with memories of Italy. Not there yet, but staff shortages don't help, and many medical (and care home) staff have been working flat out now for months.

No-one really knows exactly why the infection rate has jumped so significantly, but part of the reason is now thought to be keeping schools open, and there is little doubt the 15% or so of the population who won't have anything to do with the corona rules have played their part.
 
The infection rate went through the 30000 mark yesterday. I hope the stricter measures soon start to take effect. General feeling that perhaps the government should have reacted quicker and been less obsessed with preserving Christmas - although from the best of motives considering restrictions over the last year.

Needless to say the death rate has gone up as expected, but the intensive capacity of the hospitals in some areas is approaching the upper limit, and the word triage is starting to be banded about, with memories of Italy. Not there yet, but staff shortages don't help, and many medical (and care home) staff have been working flat out now for months.

No-one really knows exactly why the infection rate has jumped so significantly, but part of the reason is now thought to be keeping schools open, and there is little doubt the 15% or so of the population who won't have anything to do with the corona rules have played their part.

What stricter measures ? - we came out of lockdown 2 weeks ago - and are set to ease measures next week ?.......unless I've missed something I'm not seeing any stricter measures ?
 

Oldhippy

Cynical idealist
At the bottom line, we want our cake and eat it. You cannot have both without drastically rethinking how we operate as a nation and society! Simple carry on trying and it will just continue or stop and think as a nation. Sadly we won't do that and economics will continue to be more important than life.
 

Unkraut

Master of the Inane Comment
Location
Germany
What stricter measures ? - we came out of lockdown 2 weeks ago - and are set to ease measures next week ?.......unless I've missed something I'm not seeing any stricter measures ?
Sorry, I'm talking about Germany rather than the UK. As this is a UK forum I don't want to rabbit on about this too often, but on the other hand it's not the other side of the world either!

Some complacency crept in over the summer having managed the pandemic reasonably well in March/April, and the central and state governments were a bit slow to react beginning of October when the cases started to increase again. The November lockdown lite did succeed in breaking the exponential increase, at least for a while, but infections remain far too high for tracking which is essential to keep the virus under some sort of control. The latest figure of 31300 is far too high and is endangering the healthcare system. I reckon the current measures will be extended from 10 January to at least the end of January.

At least the UK has got on with vaccinations and a much improved testing regime. Approval still awaited here (Monday) and the first vaccinations due to start on 27th December. Even with the vaccinations a reasonable return to more normal life is unlikely until towards the end of next year, unless there are further developments.
 
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