I'm going back to flats and trainers! I have tried SPDs, and I'm fed up with foot cramps, sore knees and sore hips. You adjust the set-up to eliminate one of the aforementioned, and it causes one of the others
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. Clearly I don't have the set-up correct, but how the hell do you know when it IS correct? From my experience, it can feel correct for about 50 miles, THEN you find to your cost that it WASN'T correct because you end the ride with painful hips or knees. Cramps in feet are easier to deal with as they set in quite early and a tweak of the cleat usually sorts it. The hip problems on the other hand, have resulted in visits to the physio..
I have taken all sorts of advice with regards to bike set up: saddle position, bar position, as well as cleats. None seem to work, and I have never had any of these problems when riding with flats, so the solution to my problem seems pretty obvious. Incidentally, I have never noticed any difference in my average speed when riding clipless. IMHO clipless = pointless for me (being no more than an average casual rider doing about 3500 miles per year).