Climbing, how much?

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mythste

Guru
Location
Manchester
Sorry for the vague thread title, but I couldn't think of how to phrase what I'm asking, so I'll explain!

I know where I'm at in distance, 30 miles is a blast, 40 miles is a ride, 50+ is a slog, but after doing a little hillier route than usual last Sunday (2000ish feet in 30ish miles) I realised I have no idea what that means!

I suppose there is something to be said for how steep the climbs are etc, but what do you consider a "good" amount of hills for a challenging ride?

Curious.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
In the Peaks you can easily average 1000ft of climbing per 10 miles. That's generally a hilly ride.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
In the Peaks you can easily average 1000ft of climbing per 10 miles. That's generally a hilly ride.
The same round here. The audax ride that I did on Sunday (plus the extra bits up and down the A646) was 127 km with about 2,400 m of climbing (79 miles, about 8,000 ft.). Some stretches of 17+%. I would say that it was a fairly tough route - unfit riders would have really struggled, fairly fit riders found it hard work, and fit riders rode it fast so they found it hard too!
 
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mythste

mythste

Guru
Location
Manchester
Well I certainly enjoy going up more than I enjoy coming down on long descents!

Good to know some vague figures. This is my first season of "proper" cycling and though I'm proud to have a good few thousand winter miles in my legs, It's time I started hitting the steep stuff more often.

Thanks!
 

Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
East Devon
1000ft in 10 miles is 300m in 16km which is seriously hilly: for 100km that's 1900+m. Don't believe many people are doing rides of any length with that percentage much (I'm not saying they don't exist).
@Sea of vapours , who's based in Clapham (as in Yorkshire!) has done 9 x 100km plus rides in 2016 and is averaging ~1650m per 100km with a max of 2203m. I think that Audaxes need to have more than 1250m per 100km [Edited: it's 1500m - see post below] to get an AAA rating, which seems as good an objective 'climbing' threshold as any.
I have done a number of 100s (km) this year (Devon). Can't get a ride of less than 900m per 100km. Flat and fast is less than 1100m of climb per 100km. Hilly is more than 1400m and is 'good'. 1600m+ is probably over Dartmoor or across the grain towards Dorset.
2016 Average: 120km + 1403m
 
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Audax AAA (Audax altitude award) climbing rate is 1,500m per 100km (it goes down a bit for longer distances, but not much!). That is certainly 'quite hilly'. Around here, picking a random loop of 100km will typically be distinctly over that target, though the ones I've done so far this year have often been chosen to stay [relatively] low and avoid ice and snow. The flattest I've managed was something like 1,200m for 100km and that did feel quite flat, so it's to a degree all about what you're used to I think.
 

Bollo

Failed Tech Bro
Location
Winch
Around my way (Winchester/mid Hants) most rides usually deliver around 100m per 10km or 500ft per 10miles. It can't compete with the more mountainous parts of the country, but the constant up and down on roads that don't pay much attention to the landscape often takes people by surprise. Think interval training on real roads.
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
In the Peaks you can easily average 1000ft of climbing per 10 miles. That's generally a hilly ride.
I cannot find a ride that isn't 1000 feet per 10 miles. Town centre and back from here is 900 feet in six miles if you go the long way round. It's 750 feet in the last 2.5 miles out of 4.5 if you ride as the crow flies. The joys of living at 1300 feet!
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
100ft per mile is the golden number of a hilly ride....anything above that is seriously hilly
 
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