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[tdr1nka]

Or as my Geography Teacher used to say, 'Tdr1nka, only fools laugh at their own jokes, Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!'.

 

[Disgruntled Goat]

As one of my teachers used to say: "Your opinion is only as good as the evidence with which you can back it up."

'ere Disgruntled, is this one of those rare occasions when we agree on something?

Depends if that is your opinion or judgement considering all the available evidence.

 

[Andy in Sig]

It's a bit late to start getting intellectual after 1,500+ posts!

 

[Blue]

So when you do start spouting forth, at least try to justify your opinion (other that I know what i like and i like what I know), otherwise you run the risk of looking a twat.

So speaks a "Do as I say....." merchant, if ever there was one

 

[Arch]

Saying that "a 1982 Chateau Mouton-Rothschild is rubbish and just another wine because frankly I think a bottle of Lambrini tastes great" doesn't give your opinion any validity whatsoever because you patently don't know what the hell you are talking about.

um, no, if it's a matter of personal taste, surely, personal opinion is perfectly valid. I hate mushrooms, but I have a guilty liking for instant noodles served in a sauce of cup-a-soup. That doesn't make me wrong, it's just taste.

I suppose it would be wrong to therefore say "all mushrooms are rubbish" - although to me, they are...

 

[Smeggers]

My opinion is that the earth is flat, therefore its true.

ya bunch of nobbers!!!!!

 

[Chuffy]

So when you do start spouting forth, at least try to justify your opinion (other that I know what i like and i like what I know), otherwise you run the risk of looking a twat.

You're quite right. I should stick to parroting accepted wisdom and not bother trying to form opinions of my own.

The Beatles are the greatest band of all time. This is a quantifiable fact and not open to debate by fools and knaves. I do not need to provide evidence or proof of this, it is a self-evident truth and backed up by the authority of Mojo magazine.

Happy now?

 

[rich p]

You're quite right. I should stick to parroting accepted wisdom and not bother trying to form opinions of my own.

The Beatles are the greatest band of all time. This is a quantifiable fact and not open to debate by fools and knaves. I do not need to provide evidence or proof of this, it is a self-evident truth and backed up by the authority of Mojo magazine.

Happy now?

You can guarantee that if the great majority believe something to be true, good, pretty or whatever, then pretty quickly someone will come on and say the Beatles are crap, Mozart was talentless and Chris Hoy is a weed

 

[Chuffy]

You can guarantee that if the great majority believe something to be true, good, pretty or whatever, then pretty quickly someone will come on and say the Beatles are crap, Mozart was talentless and Chris Hoy is a weed

You can measure Chris Hoy's thighs. You'll need two tape measures though.
Is there an equivalent, absolute, measure for how 'good' music is?

 

[Flying_Monkey]

This post will no doubt put me in danger of going on Dayvo's hit list of intellectuals, but here goes...

You need time. Some sort of consusus does emerge over time about music or any art. That's why Bach has lasted, for example.

In addition, saying X is 'good' or 'crap' is the same as saying 'I like / don't like X'. For example, you couldn't really say 'Bach is crap' with any seriousness, but nothing forces you to like Bach. If you don't enjoy Bach, saying 'I don't like Bach' is simply a statement of fact about yourself and your tastes, whereas saying 'Bach is crap' sounds more like ignorance, as it is a statement about Bach not about you - and you would have to come up with some musical / artistic reason to justify it.

The whole overrating thing is probably just a function of immediacy. By definition anything fashionable it probably hysterically overrated because that's how fashion (in music or anything else) works. Probably you'll only be able to tell in a hundred years (or probably more) whether band X (or indeed any particular musical form) were truly overrated or indeed 'good'. That still won't stop people liking or disliking X of course and why should it?

 

[gbb]

Or as my Geography Teacher used to say, 'Tdr1nka, only fools laugh at their own jokes, Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!'.

I love it

My kind of guy...i love it when people can laugh at themselves. It indicates a person is at peace with himself. Something a good many people in this country could do with...too uptight by far.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

I love it

My kind of guy...i love it when people can laugh at themselves. It indicates a person is at peace with himself. Something a good many people in this country could do with...too uptight by far.

My geography teacher often used to be too drunk to do very much at all... so much so that I used to have to teach his classes sometimes - lovely man though.

 

[Dayvo]

This post will no doubt put me in danger of going on Dayvo's hit list of intellectuals, but here goes...
You need time. Some sort of consusus does emerge over time about music or any art. That's why Bach has lasted, for example.

In addition, saying X is 'good' or 'crap' is the same as saying 'I like / don't like X'. For example, you couldn't really say 'Bach is crap' with any seriousness, but nothing forces you to like Bach. If you don't enjoy Bach, saying 'I don't like Bach' is simply a statement of fact about yourself and your tastes, whereas saying 'Bach is crap' sounds more like ignorance, as it is a statement about Bach not about you - and you would have to come up with some musical / artistic reason to justify it.

The whole overrating thing is probably just a function of immediacy. By definition anything fashionable it probably hysterically overrated because that's how fashion (in music or anything else) works. Probably you'll only be able to tell in a hundred years (or probably more) whether band X (or indeed any particular musical form) were truly overrated or indeed 'good'. That still won't stop people liking or disliking X of course and why should it?

Fine post, FM, and fine by me!

 

[Dayvo]

I love it

My kind of guy...i love it when people can laugh at themselves. It indicates a person is at peace with himself. Something a good many people in this country could do with...too uptight by far.

Something a good many people ON THIS FORUM could do with...too uptight by far

 

[Abitrary]

My geography teacher often used to be too drunk to do very much at all... so much so that I used to have to teach his classes sometimes - lovely man though.

Snap! When I was at secondary school I was quite into astronomy and space (a patrick moore type schoolkid) and I used to stop off at the uni on wednesdays on the way home to give classes.