https://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-US/news/article/title/13750/
http://ibd.specialized.com/media/whatsnew/Specialized-Important_Safety_Inspection_UK_Forks.pdf
Certainly got to stay away from these big names. Chinese are shoddy
Chinese frames choices
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e-rider
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you are completely missing the point about Chinese manufacturers - as we all know many of the largest names in the business have their frames made in China and these are among the best carbon frames made on the planet - however, China also has a huge industry of cheap low quality manufacturing - buying non-branded frames cheap directly from China will likely expose you to the latterhttps://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-US/news/article/title/13750/
http://ibd.specialized.com/media/whatsnew/Specialized-Important_Safety_Inspection_UK_Forks.pdf
Certainly got to stay away from these big names. Chinese are shoddy
PhilDawson8270
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Those same non-branded frames are purchased, and used by both Ribble, Planet X, and probably others I'm not aware of.
The only difference is that Ribble, and Planet X will do their own QC, when they get the stock in, and return/destroy what isn't suitable. This pushes the price up, but minimises the chance of issues. Norco carbon forks, are made in the same factory as Planet X's carbon bikes are built.
If you buy from a reputable Chinese retailer/factory, and you check what you receive for flaws and damage you will have no issues.
Just because they're non-branded it doesn't mean they're untrustworthy. And as we have seen various branded items have experienced extremely dangerous manufacturing defects. The name doesn't mean it will always be safe.
e-rider
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no hope
PhilDawson8270
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..thats why I said I was sticking to those who have a good reputation and thousands of perfectly happy customers - just read up of Dengfu for example.
Saw a programme not that long ago showing how iphones are made in China - people with basic skills earning tuppence for 16 hour shifts - falling asleep on assembly lines etc.. looked more like slavery than employment and yet we look upon apple products as prestige products. Nothing to stop a Chinese firm using the same techniques or even the same factories as the big name brands and to turn out products to practically the same spec for much less profit.
Ceasefire lads!
bonsaibilly
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Maybe you should take a course in understanding irony.
vickster
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sort of related. There was a programme last year on fake Chinese bike parts, one link here among many http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...e-parts-highlighted-by-bbc-documentary-203011
one about frames http://velonews.competitor.com/not-...k-deep-inside-the-carbon-in-counterfeit-bikes
As long as you know what you are buying and are aware of the (potential lack of) cover if the frame fails, then go for it. At least with PX etc, they offer some warranty and you have comeback with a legit UK firm if required through SOGA etc
one about frames http://velonews.competitor.com/not-...k-deep-inside-the-carbon-in-counterfeit-bikes
As long as you know what you are buying and are aware of the (potential lack of) cover if the frame fails, then go for it. At least with PX etc, they offer some warranty and you have comeback with a legit UK firm if required through SOGA etc
e-rider
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as you seem to like PX and Ribble please write to them and ask for a detailed account of the procedure and processes required to bring Chinese made frames onto the market in the UK - you clearly have no idea.
RoubaixCube
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Ive seen a fair few videos on youtube where someone has built a bike out of a carbon frame bought from china which was a replica of a high end Pinarello (i think it was the Dogma) and he was quite happy with it.... Till the frame developed a crack, but he contacted the seller who he bought it off, they replaced it for him and last i heard he built another 2 bikes with frames bought from the same people and he's very very happy with it.
ColinJ
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Half a metre of cable sticking out of the back brake ...?Got discs on both my bike and wont ever go back to rim brakes.......easy to use and set-up, no squeeling and can stop from speed when descending. Whats not to like
Its been trimmed back since that picture colinHalf a metre of cable sticking out of the back brake ...?
PhilDawson8270
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I import plenty of parts into the UK on a regular basis, many subject to far stricter regulation than bicycle parts, so I do have an idea on the processes required.
Instead of resorting to childish insults, why don't you just engage in a mature discussion and explain your points. Then we can have a conversation like normal people?
Drago
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I'm not especially worried about being hit by a meteorite or exploding in a ball of frame simply because I'm riding a Chinese frame. No, my real concern would be is it going to be optimum in terms of fit, feel, rigidity, compliance, performance etc, things that can't be determined remotely. I wouldn't buy a bike made in the UK without trying it first, so wouldn't for one made in China.
