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GuyBoden

Guru
Location
Warrington
To avoid arriving at your destination "sweaty", just give yourself more time, pedal very slowly and don't wear too much clothing.

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si_c

Guru
Location
Wirral
I know it's possibly above your original budget, but have you considered a Brompton?

A friend of mine and his partner bought one each recently as they have nowhere to store bikes where they live (city centre apartment block) and these fold up and slide behind their couch in their bags. Your landlord would never even notice it...
 
Hi,

After a long thought, I'm going to buy an electric bike in the end given my commute, and it could fold into the boot of my car. My landlord won't let me store a bike in the house

I've also then thought "Hmm. I could perhaps do with a bike I don't care about too much if it gets stolen" I could pot about in the city centre, riding from a town not too far out (40 minute walk) but then I wasn't sure what I should buy?

I'd essentially use it somewhat occasionally, perhaps on the weekends
Give your landlord the boot, or even two, no bike inside, seems like he wants his way
with the property you paid for, does he have a milage limit on the carpet too.
 

SkipdiverJohn

Deplorable Brexiteer
Location
London
Shadow121 said:
seems like he wants his way with the property you paid for

The landlord is the one who has paid for the property in the first place and he is perfectly entitled to dictate the terms under which he lets it out. Hence some LL's not wanting pets etc. The tenant is only paying for the use of the property, within the LL's set conditions, not the ownership of it.
If you don't like having to dance to other people's tunes, and I don't - then buy your own property and you can do what you want with it. Renting is dead money anyway. I can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would choose to rent long term, rather than buy a freehold.
 
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anonymous

Regular
The landlord is the one who has paid for the property in the first place and he is perfectly entitled to dictate the terms under which he lets it out. Hence some LL's not wanting pets etc. The tenant is only paying for the use of the property, within the LL's set conditions, not the ownership of it.
If you don't like having to dance to other people's tunes, and I don't - then buy your own property and you can do what you want with it. Renting is dead money anyway. I can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would choose to rent long term, rather than buy a freehold.

People don't always have a choice. As for myself, I bought a house in the states outright, and whilst being dead money, I'm still quids in, and can rent super close to the city centre which tbh many home owners can't even afford
 
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anonymous

Regular
I know it's possibly above your original budget, but have you considered a Brompton?

A friend of mine and his partner bought one each recently as they have nowhere to store bikes where they live (city centre apartment block) and these fold up and slide behind their couch in their bags. Your landlord would never even notice it...
I have, however I'm looking to buy an e-bike anyway from Woosh. It'll take me 15 miles each way, and still have a little bit of charge left

I was also looking at getting one that I didn't care too much about, and could use it just to get to the city centre which is just 3 miles away
 

Vantage

Carbon fibre... LMAO!!!
6 miles is nothing really. Any old pile of crap will do that. As long as the brakes work and the gears aren't too knackered I wouldn't bother spending more than £50.
I don't know about Leeds, but in Bolton and Manchester at least there are 'community transport' shops. These sell a range of used bikes at really cheap prices.
I was in Bolton with my other half on Fri having a coffee and we witnessed some scumbag cycle up to another locked bike and wrench something off the handlebars. Brazen as hell. No police around so they've nothing to fear and the general public won't intervene incase of injury to themselves. Leaving something pricy in a town is risky as hell nowadays.
As to owning or renting a property, as the op said, not everyone has that option. Especially at the cost of properties these days. I wouldn't say renting is dead money though. If you own your home, repairs to roofing, walls, plumbing etc are yours to bear. And once it's paid off, you can't take it with you when you pop your clogs.
With renting, the landlord be it housing association, council or private, those expensive repairs and maintenance costs are theirs to pay.
 
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anonymous

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6 miles is nothing really. Any old pile of crap will do that. As long as the brakes work and the gears aren't too knackered I wouldn't bother spending more than £50.
I don't know about Leeds, but in Bolton and Manchester at least there are 'community transport' shops. These sell a range of used bikes at really cheap prices.
I was in Bolton with my other half on Fri having a coffee and we witnessed some scumbag cycle up to another locked bike and wrench something off the handlebars. Brazen as hell. No police around so they've nothing to fear and the general public won't intervene incase of injury to themselves. Leaving something pricy in a town is risky as hell nowadays.
As to owning or renting a property, as the op said, not everyone has that option. Especially at the cost of properties these days. I wouldn't say renting is dead money though. If you own your home, repairs to roofing, walls, plumbing etc are yours to bear. And once it's paid off, you can't take it with you when you pop your clogs.
With renting, the landlord be it housing association, council or private, those expensive repairs and maintenance costs are theirs to pay.

Yup. I also live both sides of the ll/ tenant life. Tenant life can be easier in some respects
 

rivers

How far can I go?
Location
Bristol
The landlord is the one who has paid for the property in the first place and he is perfectly entitled to dictate the terms under which he lets it out. Hence some LL's not wanting pets etc. The tenant is only paying for the use of the property, within the LL's set conditions, not the ownership of it.
If you don't like having to dance to other people's tunes, and I don't - then buy your own property and you can do what you want with it. Renting is dead money anyway. I can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would choose to rent long term, rather than buy a freehold.

Because house prices have gotten so out of control, the average working couple can't afford one? The only reasons we were able to buy a house were due to me receiving a decent payout from a motorbike accident AND my wife's father being able to help us out. We also chose to live in a known rougher area as those were the only houses in our price range without having to move 40 miles away from work.
 

Smudge

Veteran
Location
Somerset
Because house prices have gotten so out of control, the average working couple can't afford one? The only reasons we were able to buy a house were due to me receiving a decent payout from a motorbike accident AND my wife's father being able to help us out. We also chose to live in a known rougher area as those were the only houses in our price range without having to move 40 miles away from work.

Indeed.... I'd say the majority of people that are renting, are certainly not renting by choice. Especially those renting in the private sector.
 

SkipdiverJohn

Deplorable Brexiteer
Location
London
Indeed.... I'd say the majority of people that are renting, are certainly not renting by choice. Especially those renting in the private sector.

Some areas are very expensive, but there are still plenty of parts of the country where housing isn't unaffordable, yet many people still rent anyway. A semi-retired mate of mine owns two rental houses in such a place and they are almost always both let and never sitting empty.
The difference between when I grew up and today, is I was out grafting and earning money at 16, and saving a good chunk of that cash, so I could afford to buy a house at 22. A lot of today's youngsters have never even had a full-time job by that age, but have spent years going to uni and generally racking up debt instead. Then they want to leave home but suddenly realise they haven't saved any money to put down to buy something, so all they can do is scrape together a month's rental deposit and go for a house share. Then they can't save much for a deposit because they are spending all their money on rent and socialising...... It's a question of priorities. I don't know any youngster who owns their own property, but they can always find the money to go out, go on holiday, buy clothes, and upgrade to the latest model of smartphone. Most of them aren't building up any meaningful pension pot either, because they don't want to sacrifice their lifestyle.
 

Smudge

Veteran
Location
Somerset
Some areas are very expensive, but there are still plenty of parts of the country where housing isn't unaffordable, yet many people still rent anyway. A semi-retired mate of mine owns two rental houses in such a place and they are almost always both let and never sitting empty.
The difference between when I grew up and today, is I was out grafting and earning money at 16, and saving a good chunk of that cash, so I could afford to buy a house at 22. A lot of today's youngsters have never even had a full-time job by that age, but have spent years going to uni and generally racking up debt instead. Then they want to leave home but suddenly realise they haven't saved any money to put down to buy something, so all they can do is scrape together a month's rental deposit and go for a house share. Then they can't save much for a deposit because they are spending all their money on rent and socialising...... It's a question of priorities. I don't know any youngster who owns their own property, but they can always find the money to go out, go on holiday, buy clothes, and upgrade to the latest model of smartphone. Most of them aren't building up any meaningful pension pot either, because they don't want to sacrifice their lifestyle.

The housing crisis is far too complex to just dismiss it by young people going to university and the fact they like going out socialising. Many young people dont go to university and are stuck in the gig economy of zero hours contracts and not even getting the full minimum wage until they are 25. The decimated social housing becomes ever more hard to get to the point of an impossibility, so people are stuck with high rents in the private sector, with so little disposable income left over that they see saving for a property buying deposit unattainable. And with the benefit system as it is now, woe betide anyone anyone that is out of work through being laid off or is sick, in these cases now you're almost on your own. Hence the massive rise in homelessness.
All this doesn't just affect young people, it affects people of all ages. This housing crisis is born of many different factors, that have come together and has created a perfect storm.
 
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