DaveReading
Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
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It's a newspaper headline (from the Sun) and, the adjective aside, appears to be an assertion which I doubt the defence is disputing.
Charlie Alliston case - fixie rider accused of causing pedestrian death
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It's a newspaper headline (from the Sun) and, the adjective aside, appears to be an assertion which I doubt the defence is disputing.
srw
It's a bit more complicated than that...
Quite. It's factual reporting, however emotionally phrased. That's the skill of a tabloid subed.
jefmcg
Guru
[QUOTE 4920529, member: 1314"]
I don't understand your question.[/QUOTE]
We are in a thread about a kid who has allegedly killed someone with his bike, and you say "It's the older middle aged road users who are the problem." How are they "the problem" compared to getting killed by an 18 year old?
I don't understand your question.[/QUOTE]
We are in a thread about a kid who has allegedly killed someone with his bike, and you say "It's the older middle aged road users who are the problem." How are they "the problem" compared to getting killed by an 18 year old?
jefmcg
Guru
[QUOTE 4920559, member: 1314"]Eh? He is a man. He was 18 and is older now. 18 is when you stop being a 'kid' in the UK. I'll deal with the rest of your post once you've dealt with the simple difference between 'kid' and 'adult'.[/QUOTE]
In a thread where someone is dead, you say the real problem is middle aged men.
Don't distract. Why are they the problem - in a place where we are talking about death?
Answer, or I will ignore you like everyone else has (obviously more sensibly than me) and enjoy your echo chamber.
In a thread where someone is dead, you say the real problem is middle aged men.
Don't distract. Why are they the problem - in a place where we are talking about death?
Answer, or I will ignore you like everyone else has (obviously more sensibly than me) and enjoy your echo chamber.
numbnuts
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With comment like that it sounds like he hasn't got a good legal team
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User6179
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His evidence is what is going to convict him, what is the saying again about keeping quiet and looking stupid.
An experienced cyclist would have their hand on the brake lever going through an area with lots of pedestrians and other cyclists.
jefmcg
Guru
He's being represented by a QC in court, so they are spending some serious money. It seems as if he's ignoring the advice.
GrumpyGregry
Here for rides.
"At all times I would know what I'm doing and completely responsible for my actions."
As I said elsewhere... Nobber.
As I said elsewhere... Nobber.
An experienced cyclist would cover their brakes in that situation.
This particular cyclist comes across as a sociopath to me, unable to own his actions and their consequences. The excuses he comes out with are ridiculous. I really don't get it, I see pedestrians wandering around using smartphones all the time, the sight of the smartphone is an indication that the user is oblivious to anything around them, so I need to keep speed down and give them a wide berth. I've never come close to crashing into a pedestrian, there is plenty of warning if someone is going to step in front of you if you are paying attention and looking along the road, not just at your front wheel. As for a front brake not making a difference, shuuuuut uuuuuuup you prat.
KneesUp
Guru
Imagine you made a terrible mistake when you were very young - a mistake for which you may have to pay with a substantial number of years of your liberty, and a chunk of your employment prospects and - as a result - your future earnings, as well as living with the guilt for, what 80 years?
Imagine that mistake involved that feeling of invincibility that youth brings, and that sensation that seems limited to the young of imagining everyone is as sharp, switched on and alert as you are. Remember how, when you were 18, you couldn't comprehend how middle-aged people were so slow witted, and why their reaction times were so slow?
Now imagine you're in court on trial. There are certain facts you cannot reasonably deny because there is hard evidence and witness evidence.
Assuming you don't want to go to court and say "It was all my fault - have mercy on me" what would you say any different?
Imagine that mistake involved that feeling of invincibility that youth brings, and that sensation that seems limited to the young of imagining everyone is as sharp, switched on and alert as you are. Remember how, when you were 18, you couldn't comprehend how middle-aged people were so slow witted, and why their reaction times were so slow?
Now imagine you're in court on trial. There are certain facts you cannot reasonably deny because there is hard evidence and witness evidence.
Assuming you don't want to go to court and say "It was all my fault - have mercy on me" what would you say any different?
As the photo is credited to the Press Association, it's unlikely to be his actual bike, I would think
GrumpyGregry
Here for rides.
You man up. You plead guilty. Anything else involves flying in the face of facts, distortion and, probably, lying.
We/he can claim he was unlucky. That's life. It is terribly unfair.
