chain upgrade...are Shimano chains bad?

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Mushroomgodmat

Über Member
Location
Norwich
My current chain (105 Super Narrow Chain 10-Speed) has done 3000 miles and I think I should probably change it!

On this forum (and others) Iv head mention that Shimano chain are pretty poor in comparison to other manufacturers...Is this true and would someone mind suggest a replacement chain, as iv paid no attention as to who these other manufacturers are ?

cheers!
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Shimano chains....are not very good.
KMC or SRAM are the way to go.

At 3000 miles and dependent on how stretched your chain is you may need a new cassette too.
 
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Mushroomgodmat

Über Member
Location
Norwich
At 3000 miles and dependent on how stretched your chain is you may need a new cassette too.

Im hoping - that because I live in the flat lands of Norfolk as as such dont do much hill work that my cassette is still okay (fingers crossed)

So i assume all 10 speed chains are compatible with all 10 speed cassettes etc?

cheers for the advice!
 

Rob3rt

Man or Moose!
Location
Manchester
Only 3000 miles out of a chain and cassette? That is like 3-4 months for me. Call me nuts but I don't even bother to start checking the wear until about that point, lol!

Except during winter where the wear is magnified by road grit!
 
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Mushroomgodmat

Über Member
Location
Norwich
Only 3000 miles out of a chain and cassette? That is like 3-4 months for me. Call me nuts but I don't even bother to start checking the wear until about that point, lol!

Except during winter where the wear is magnified by road grit!

the 3000 miles is a years worth for me, but the bike has been out of commutes almost every day of the year - though out winter. But Ill probably head down to the local bike shop and pick up a chain ware device thing
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
3000 miles is good. i replace mine (possibly slightly early) at circa 1200 miles, SRAM, Shimano, KMC, they all perform about the same. At 1200 miles, mine are showing stretch, but not quite at 0.75%.

Shimano chains quality ?...IIRC there was an issue with cracking side plates on 105 chains, havnt heard anything else (barring a few reports lately of snapping chains, but i don't know who's)
 

GentlyBenevolent

Well-Known Member
Location
Wigan-ish
If a newbie was to be looking around for a chain to buy and keep "in stock", how do you identify what will fit your bike? How do you identify the correct split links for your manufacturer fitted chain?

I was looking around, but got baffled by the array of models and shied away from it all.
 

Rob3rt

Man or Moose!
Location
Manchester
3000 miles is good. i replace mine (possibly slightly early) at circa 1200 miles, SRAM, Shimano, KMC, they all perform about the same. At 1200 miles, mine are showing stretch, but not quite at 0.75%.

Shimano chains quality ?...IIRC there was an issue with cracking side plates on 105 chains, havnt heard anything else (barring a few reports lately of snapping chains, but i don't know who's)

I would go through a chain every 6-8 weeks, 6-9 chains a year! :sad: I do clean the chain and running gear after every ride though so maybe that is why I seem to get a good lifespan from mine.
 

bobones

Veteran
On my winter bike, I replaced a KMC X10-93, which had broken 3 times due to cracked side plates, with a Shimano Ultegra 6701 chain. The KMC had done only 750 miles. The Shimano chain is absolutely great, and doesn't rust at all, whereas the KMC showed rust when wet. I used the KMC missing link to join the chain instead of the Shimano pin, which is one of the main criticism of Shimano chains.

I use a KMC X10-SL in gold on my good bike and it has been perfectly fine: not showing wear at 2500 miles. Before this chain I had a X10-L, which is a cheaper chain, and it only lasted 1200 miles before it needed replaced. Admittedly, the X10-L was used in worse conditions that the SL.

I also had a SRAM PC-850, but found it was noisy compared to KMC and the finish was dull and ugly.

So, given my experiences, I would avoid cheap KMC chains and SRAM chains, and would recommend the KMC-10SL and the Shimano Ultegra chains. In case you didn't know, KMC manufacture chains for Shimano.
 

buddha

Veteran
What I don't understand is, why Shimano make such rubbish chains?
I've tried the grey, half-silver and full silver KMC 10sp chains. And IME they all last as long as each other - if you clean+lube. So it's been the X10.73 for me.
 

PpPete

Legendary Member
Location
Chandler's Ford
If a newbie was to be looking around for a chain to buy and keep "in stock", how do you identify what will fit your bike? How do you identify the correct split links for your manufacturer fitted chain?
I was looking around, but got baffled by the array of models and shied away from it all.

How many sprockets on your cassette ? That determines what "speed" chain you want - in KMC language that's the number after the "X"
Beyond that it's just a question of how deep your pockets are.

Split links:
For a given manufacturer and number of speeds the split links are the same whatever "quality" of chain you bought.
So these will fit any KMC/SRAM/Shimano 10 speed chain
The only 10 speed chain they don't fit is Campag.... for which you need this one
(Note that some bikes equipped with a full Campag groupset are actually fitted with a non-Campag chain so you need the first of those)
All 9 speed use this
All 11 speed use this
All 6, 7, 8 speed use this
 
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