Central Heating - on yet?

[Alex321]

I think the planning is to faze out gas heating, starting sometime soon. Apparently we've all got to get heat pumps, even though they don't work well in older property.

The phasing out is starting with new builds. Which will no longer be permitted to have gas boilers from 2025.

There are currently no official plans to require replacements of existing gas boilers, or to require that when they need replacing, that be with other technologies.

I suspect that will change, but it will be quite a few years down the line.

 

[Kingfisher101]

They cant force everyone to get heat pumps.A lot of properties are unable to have them anyway because of room, never mind the cost factor. If you have a terrace house with no garden etc. Where are you going to put the massive box needed? Also a lot of home owners struggle with affording the basics let alone a £15K heat pump. The scheme will be downgraded.

 

[fossyant]

Had the windows open last night - still fairly warm, slightly cool this morning, but even MrsF wasn't under the duvet. My son did shut his window for the first time in months. No heating yet.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

The phasing out is starting with new builds. Which will no longer be permitted to have gas boilers from 2025.

There are currently no official plans to require replacements of existing gas boilers, or to require that when they need replacing, that be with other technologies.

I suspect that will change, but it will be quite a few years down the line.

Even worse with Oil burners (as many as approx' 1.7m households who are off the 'gas grid') - no replacement boilers can be fitted from 2026 although they can be repaired.

 

[Mike_P]

They cant force everyone to get heat pumps.A lot of properties are unable to have them anyway because of room, never mind the cost factor.

Wall mounted ? No doubt at some point grant assistance will occur. I had free cavity walling insulation. They would have redone the loft insulation as well but I have fully boarded it which has near enough the same effect.

 

[fritz katzenjammer]

It’s still hitting 20C or higher during the day, so I’ll get away with just closing a few windows at night for another week or so.

I’m in no hurry to turn on the great grey gas burner.

It’s a bit of a first world problem don’tcha think.

 

[cyberknight]

It’s still hitting 20C or higher during the day, so I’ll get away with just closing a few windows at night for another week or so.

I’m in no hurry to turn on the great grey gas burner.

It’s a bit of a first world problem don’tcha think.

forecast 16 c overnight , if the heating gets turned on im hiding the thermostat from mrs ck

 

[Andy in Germany]

Would be hopeless for me. These bungalows are just timber frame and a single brick and can't have cavity wall insulation so damn sure I wouldn't be going to the expense of some sort of external or internal cladding then the cost of a heat pump, etc. I'll stick with my storage heaters. I believe they are already saying that new builds should no longer have gas boilers put in.

This is common here: often an older building gets an extra wall of something resembling polystyrene and then an outer hard skin. On certain listed buildings the cladding has to go on the inside which must take some getting used to.

 

[Baldy]

. I had free cavity walling insulation. They would have redone the loft insulation as well but I have fully boarded it which has near enough the same effect.

I had the cavity's done when I first moved in. The loft is my bedrooms, I did the bit in the apex and the bottom of the roof but can't do anything about the rest. I've a lot of roof facing south it would be a good place for solar panels but I can't afford them. I changed the boiler about five years ago so hopefully it will last a good while yet. I do hope they have a rethink about heat pumps as there's no way I could afford one.

 

[johnblack]

Even worse with Oil burners (as many as approx' 1.7m households who are off the 'gas grid') - no replacement boilers can be fitted from 2026 although they can be repaired.

Yep that's me, hopefully they'll be a change in the legislation before then, but, to start with the households, which, are the most ill equipped houses to convert to air source is crazy. Plus they are mainly in very "blue" constituencies so based on that I'm hoping for a stay of execution.

 

[Alex321]

They cant force everyone to get heat pumps.A lot of properties are unable to have them anyway because of room, never mind the cost factor. If you have a terrace house with no garden etc. Where are you going to put the massive box needed? Also a lot of home owners struggle with affording the basics let alone a £15K heat pump. The scheme will be downgraded.

There isn't a scheme to be downgraded.

The only legislation so far created relates ONLY to new build houses completed from 2025 onwards.

There are proposals to phase out the installation of new/replacement gas boilers by 2035, but even then, that will only mean you have to replace with something else when your existing boiler needs replacement.

Yep that's me, hopefully they'll be a change in the legislation before then, but, to start with the households, which, are the most ill equipped houses to convert to air source is crazy. Plus they are mainly in very "blue" constituencies so based on that I'm hoping for a stay of execution.

They aren't even considering those households, never mind starting with them.

You won't be able to fit a NEW oil fired boiler from 2026, even as a replacement. But the people with oil fired boilers are mostly in rural properties, not the terraced houses which are the ones least well equipped to convert.

As far as gas boilers are concerned, the legislation regarding gas boilers only applies to houses completed from 1st January 2025. There are proposals but not yet any legislation for 2035 as the final point for installation of gas boilers. There is no proposal for a limitation on when existing ones have to be replaced.

 

[johnblack]

There isn't a scheme to be downgraded.

The only legislation so far created relates ONLY to new build houses completed from 2025 onwards.

There are proposals to phase out the installation of new/replacement gas boilers by 2035, but even then, that will only mean you have to replace with something else when your existing boiler needs replacement.



They aren't even considering those households, never mind starting with them.

You won't be able to fit a NEW oil fired boiler from 2026, even as a replacement. But the people with oil fired boilers are mostly in rural properties, not the terraced houses which are the ones least well equipped to convert.

As far as gas boilers are concerned, the legislation regarding gas boilers only applies to houses completed from 1st January 2025. There are proposals but not yet any legislation for 2035 as the final point for installation of gas boilers. There is no proposal for a limitation on when existing ones have to be replaced.

Yep well aware of what I am and not able to do, the problem with a large amount of rural housing is that it is very old, lots of stone and solid brick, no cavity walls, so not the type of property that can be insulated to make air source practical, plus lots of listed buildings that won't allow for the sort of upgrades that they would need.

 

[Electric_Andy]

We put the fire on Sunday afternoon, but it was far too hot. My partner's house is very cold though. I actually prefer a colder room and a blanket

 

[Jody]

Had the windows open last night - still fairly warm, slightly cool this morning, but even MrsF wasn't under the duvet. My son did shut his window for the first time in months. No heating yet.

We put the fire on Sunday afternoon, but it was far too hot. My partner's house is very cold though. I actually prefer a colder room and a blanket

Today was the first where consideration has been put towards whether the heating will be on.

Probably only a week or three away now for the same reason as yours Andy. Light it too early and it's like going to bed in the tropics.

Funnily enough I saw someone with a fire on last week when the day temps were 29 degrees.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Yep well aware of what I am and not able to do, the problem with a large amount of rural housing is that it is very old, lots of stone and solid brick, no cavity walls, so not the type of property that can be insulated to make air source practical, plus lots of listed buildings that won't allow for the sort of upgrades that they would need.

It is crazy and I only stumbled across this change for Oil Burners very recently. No one I know in our village was aware either until I mentioned it.

There are a good number of small properties in the village with solid walls and that are heated by oil boilers and I have no idea how they will cope.

It also looks like the whole central heating system may need changing too, bigger radiators and possibly new pipework for those with microbore instalations (according to 'our' plumber).

Conversion to LPG system is possible and new 'Green' substitutes for LPG are in development. Thus far unaffected by any new proposals.