Manifietso
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- Coventry
Clearly, buses are regularly ignoring the advance stop lines - I saw several doing so in London yesterday (Saturday), and they do it here in Coventry too.
Of course, buses aren't the only ones, but I thought it was worth singling them out as they are easily identifiable (ie by route alone if infrequent service or by bus ID number, which here is just four figures, as well as by reg), and also because of all driver types, bus drivers should be the best trained.
The question is - can we do anything about it?
From a technical perspective, the line at the "start" of the box (from direction of flow) should be no different to the line closest to the traffic lights, namely in that crossing it at red will incur three points and a fine if caught, and that seems to be the big if.
It looks though very little effort is being made to single out drivers who are commiting this offence, as opposed to those who jump the red light completely, even though the camera could be triggered by crossing the first, not the second line.
We all carry some form of recording device, so getting a picture of vehicles who are transgressing these boxes is not difficult. Doing anything with them would be much harder though - especially as a still image doesn't prove that the light is and has been red.
So that is why I ask about buses. There is no one to complain to in the case of cars, and I doubt a local council would do much about one complaint about a taxi in one place, and even then the reg would only give them the owner of the vehicle, not the driver.
A bus company on the other hand would have records of who was driving a particular bus / route at a particular tim. If challenged, is it reasonable to expect them to do anything about it?
So far, nxcoventry haven't even responded to my email about one I reported last week (had the bus number, no photo).
Should we be asking them to reprimand specific drivers, or is our best hope just to press for general better training of all bus drivers on all aspects of cycle awareness?
Of course, buses aren't the only ones, but I thought it was worth singling them out as they are easily identifiable (ie by route alone if infrequent service or by bus ID number, which here is just four figures, as well as by reg), and also because of all driver types, bus drivers should be the best trained.
The question is - can we do anything about it?
From a technical perspective, the line at the "start" of the box (from direction of flow) should be no different to the line closest to the traffic lights, namely in that crossing it at red will incur three points and a fine if caught, and that seems to be the big if.
It looks though very little effort is being made to single out drivers who are commiting this offence, as opposed to those who jump the red light completely, even though the camera could be triggered by crossing the first, not the second line.
We all carry some form of recording device, so getting a picture of vehicles who are transgressing these boxes is not difficult. Doing anything with them would be much harder though - especially as a still image doesn't prove that the light is and has been red.
So that is why I ask about buses. There is no one to complain to in the case of cars, and I doubt a local council would do much about one complaint about a taxi in one place, and even then the reg would only give them the owner of the vehicle, not the driver.
A bus company on the other hand would have records of who was driving a particular bus / route at a particular tim. If challenged, is it reasonable to expect them to do anything about it?
So far, nxcoventry haven't even responded to my email about one I reported last week (had the bus number, no photo).
Should we be asking them to reprimand specific drivers, or is our best hope just to press for general better training of all bus drivers on all aspects of cycle awareness?
