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Jezston

Über Member
Location
London
AFS: so basically the only standards bicycle manufacturers have to adhere to is that the bikes have reflectors on them?
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
Well there are others

BS EN 14872 Luggage carriers for bicycles. (BS EN means that it's a European Standard and also a British Standard)

These are European Standards (also published as British Standards)that have been written for other types of bike -

BS EN 14764 Bicycles for use on public roads (includes city and trekking bikes)
BS EN 14766 Mountain-bicycles
BS EN 14781 Racing bicycles
BS EN 14765 Bicycles for young children.

but it seems you have to shell out £94 to read them - See here


AFS: so basically the only standards bicycle manufacturers have to adhere to is that the bikes have reflectors on them?
 

Chris.IOW

Well-Known Member
I do ride a bso its a specialized sirrus sport I have only had it a couple of months and I ride it for pleasure


You hadn't offended me until that point.

If you are calling Specialized bikes BSO's I think you have completly missed the point of what a BSO is despite many people here trying to explain it to you.

As for the far more valid points of the British standards, whilst these exist are they not voluntary codes, i.e. they only have to be adhered to if you sign up to the standard. It would be perfectly possible to still sell a bike that did not meet these standards. A compulsory standard as per car sales would seem more appropriate. (Unless I have misunderstood how the BS standards work)
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
Chris you raise a good point about the BS or EU standards being voluntary or not. It seems that the only one that must be adhered to is BS 6102-1 which is basically the bike must be sold with reflectors but you can legally remove them once it leaves the shop!!!

You hadn't offended me until that point.

If you are calling Specialized bikes BSO's I think you have completly missed the point of what a BSO is despite many people here trying to explain it to you.

As for the far more valid points of the British standards, whilst these exist are they not voluntary codes, i.e. they only have to be adhered to if you sign up to the standard. It would be perfectly possible to still sell a bike that did not meet these standards. A compulsory standard as per car sales would seem more appropriate. (Unless I have misunderstood how the BS standards work)
 

Sonofpear

Well-Known Member
Location
South Shields
I am going to say my last words on this subject you will be pleased to hear as I agree with most of you it's going nowhere. But first I would like to apologise to Sonofpear as my reply was rude. I am genuinely sorry I replied so rudely you didn't deserve it and I apologise unreservedly.
I am somewhat embarressed about using the term "driven" in the heat of battle I misspoke myself now as to the rest it maybe that you do not use the term bso to to be bike snobs but it certainly is used in that connection by many in the cycling community. You don't agree that it's an inexact term. I respect that view you have the right to it as I have the right to mine. I opened the question out for discussion and it has been discussed. Those of you who are offended I apologise .
This is a forum for discussing cycling matters and this discussion did fall into that purview but to be accused of trolling because I have a different view to many of you ah well. I do ride a bso its a specialized sirrus sport I have only had it a couple of months and I ride it for pleasure the Bso I use for work is a viking trekking bike It gets left out in the rain and generally abused but it gets me safely from a-b. again apologies to those who are offended I thought it started as an interesting discussion. I have ridden a bike for 40 years and no longer do long distances or ride fast but I am still a cyclist and I do not apologise for not having the money to buy high end cycles.

Thanks for the apology. It wasnt needed though. I just thought you were taking things a bit seriously. And from what I've read and seen on here there isn't any snobbery towards people regardless of what they ride.
At the end of the day we all have our own opinions, and sometimes people agree and others don't. End of.
 
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rowan 46

Über Member
Location
birmingham
My apologies about the bso crack I was joking and forgot to put the smiley in. both my my specialized and my viking are perfectly good bikes. although I have to confess the specialized is the better of the two
 

Sonofpear

Well-Known Member
Location
South Shields
Chris you raise a good point about the BS or EU standards being voluntary or not. It seems that the only one that must be adhered to is BS 6102-1 which is basically the bike must be sold with reflectors but you can legally remove them once it leaves the shop!!!

My bike didn't come with any reflectors. Shocking!!!
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
Is it a racing bike?
My bike didn't come with any reflectors. Shocking!!!
 

Chris.IOW

Well-Known Member
Chris you raise a good point about the BS or EU standards being voluntary or not. It seems that the only one that must be adhered to is BS 6102-1 which is basically the bike must be sold with reflectors but you can legally remove them once it leaves the shop!!!

I had my bike delivered as there were no local dealers. There were some reflectors but they were not attached they were in a box separately. I must confess that they never made it onto the bike!

I guess as they were in the box it complied with the standard!
 
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