BSO

[Angelfishsolo]

There is only you going on about 'elitist snobbery'

I didn't want to be the one to point that out as I might have been accused of being an elitist forum critiquer or some such rubbish. As so puzzled why Apollo has such a large chip on the shoulder?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Runner = one who runs.
At the moment of running he or she who runs is a runner.
If you want to load the label with provisos ;
Runner = one who runs at the olympics
then that is your own definition and not the correct one.
I would question the motivation for such redefinitons.

I would concede that the label implies a tendency to the action.
Mr x who habitually cycles to the pub has a habitual tendency to cycle and is therefore a cyclist.
The labelling does infer a habitual repetition of the action.

Why do you have such a large chip on your shoulders?

 

[apollo179]

Why do you have such a large chip on your shoulders?

You cant avoid the issue that easily.
Why do you feel the need to be so gratuitously arrogant elitist and snobby.
I say Mr X who habitually cycles to the pub is a cyclist .
You say he isnt.
It is you that feels the need to deride and exclude people from the hobby of cycling - not me.
Why do you feel the need to behave in such an unpleasant manner.
Thats all that in querying.

 

[apollo179]

Then you choose to cycle and as such are a cyclist.

What gives you the right to judge whether anyone is a cyclist or not.

 

[apollo179]

There is only you going on about 'elitist snobbery'

Wrong.
The issue of snobbery is at the heart of this whole topic.
The 2nd post in this topic defined bso as ;
Bicycle shaped objects. - A term used by bike snobs to define "Cheap" bikes from Argos ect. "
The debate re bso/snobbery has continued thereafter.

 

[abo]

I say Mr X who habitually cycles to the pub is a cyclist .
You say he isnt.
It is you that feels the need to deride and exclude people from the hobby of cycling - not me.

Sounds more like a method of transport to the pub to me, rather than a hobby. There is no derision. Mr X himself might not even consider himself to be a cyclist.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

You cant avoid the issue that easily.
Why do you feel the need to be so gratuitously arrogant elitist and snobby.
I say Mr X who habitually cycles to the pub is a cyclist .
You say he isnt.
It is you that feels the need to deride and exclude people from the hobby of cycling - not me.
Why do you feel the need to behave in such an unpleasant manner.
Thats all that in querying.

I have said before that being a cyclist is more than just riding a bike. It is a state of mind. You don't have to have an expensive machine or top end clothes. I have a £200 Viking road bike and more of my cycling gear cost less then £30 / item. I call myself a cyclist because it plays a very large part in my life. I think about it, read about it and do it a hell of a lot.

In my youth I was a runner. I trained 6 days a week. I lived and breathed it. I was not that good - county standard only.

I, like so many others on here, have pointed out that there is, in the main, no snobbery involved. You are the only person person I can find using that term in fact.

As for behaving in an unpleasant manner I make this an open question? Am I?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

What gives you the right to judge whether anyone is a cyclist or not.

I spend three years volunteering with a cycling group. In that time I came into contact with people from all walks of life and leaves of cycling experience. Those who turned up for the weekly sessions did not class themselves as cyclists, neither did those who just did it for the social activity. A better question might be what differentiates a cyclist from a POB. I have already addressed that question.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Wrong.
The issue of snobbery is at the heart of this whole topic.
The 2nd post in this topic defined bso as ;
Bicycle shaped objects. - A term used by bike snobs to define "Cheap" bikes from Argos ect. "
The debate re bso/snobbery has continued thereafter.

Only YOU are mentioning snobbery. You interoperate the definition of BSO to be inherently snobbish. You are in a very small minority. Maybe you feel we are discriminating against you?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Sounds more like a method of transport to the pub to me, rather than a hobby. There is no derision. Mr X himself might not even consider himself to be a cyclist.

As I said previously I know many people who use bikes but would never class themselves as cyclists in the same way a person who runs for a bus would not class themselves as a runner.

 

[apollo179]

Sounds more like a method of transport to the pub to me, rather than a hobby. There is no derision. Mr X himself might not even consider himself to be a cyclist.

So are you only a cyclist if you are doing it as a hobby.
I cycle 200 miles a week but only for business purposes.
Never for pleasure - sometimes i enjoy it sometimes i dont.
Am i not a cyclist?
Should i leave the forum ?
Am i in the wrong place ?
Coat please ?

 

[apollo179]

I have said before that being a cyclist is more than just riding a bike. It is a state of mind.

So are you only a cyclist if you have a state of mind that confirms to Angelfishsolos criteria.
What do you know about anybodys state of mind ???
I cycle 200 miles a week but only for transport purposes.
Never for pleasure - sometimes i enjoy it sometimes i dont.
Am i not a cyclist?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

So are you only a cyclist if you are doing it as a hobby.
I cycle 200 miles a week but only for business purposes.
Never for pleasure - sometimes i enjoy it sometimes i dont.
Am i not a cyclist?
Should i leave the forum ?
Am i in the wrong place ?
Coat please ?

That is for you to decide. Has anyone on here called you a POB? Has anyone one here called your bike a BSO?

You are clearly upset about something but I have no idea why?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

So are you only a cyclist if you have a state of mind that confirms to Angelfishsolos criteria.
What do you know about anybodys state of mind ???
I cycle 200 miles a week but only for transport purposes.
Never for pleasure - sometimes i enjoy it sometimes i dont.
Am i not a cyclist?

That is not my criteria but one I read on here and have heard many times before.

 

[abo]

So are you only a cyclist if you are doing it as a hobby.
I cycle 200 miles a week but only for business purposes.
Never for pleasure - sometimes i enjoy it sometimes i dont.
Am i not a cyclist?
Should i leave the forum ?
Am i in the wrong place ?
Coat please ?

deride and exclude people from the hobby of cycling - not me.

So, you use the term 'hobby' in your post and then lambast me for using it in my reply to that post?

You sir, are a cock and I've no wish to continue further 'discussion'