Bottle or bidon ???

[gavroche]

A bottle is made of glass. A bidon is made of plastic or tin.

 

[John the Monkey]

I've started taking an empty "bidon" to bed with me, as i tend to wake up and want a pee in the middle of the night. Now there's no need to hobble to the bog, i just pee as i'm lying down.

By all of the devil's tiny gerbils, that is not something I wanted to know today. Or possibly ever.

 

[John the Monkey]

Which do you like best?

Call it that. Acknowledge and make peace with the fact that other folk may call it something else.

 

[nickyboy]

A bottle is made of glass. A bidon is made of plastic or tin.

Not a bottle?

FWIW, the use of words like "bidon" is a pompous affectation and should be stamped out. It's "water bottle" innit?

 

[John the Monkey]

Not a bottle?

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FWIW, the use of words like "bidon" is a pompous affectation and should be stamped out. It's "water bottle" innit?

As I think I said last time this discussion limped onto these pages, "bidon" is a decently brief way of saying "A cycling specific water bottle", and seems a harmless enough affectation in the greater scheme of things. A chacun ses gouts, what?

 

[Jimidh]

I do think calling your water bottle a bidon is a bit poncy given we have a perfectly good English descriptor.

However if you enjoy road cycling as a sport both as a viewer and a participant then peloton and similar 'pro cycling' phrases and expressions are acceptable as most other sports will have their own language of sorts.

 

[gavroche]

Not a bottle?

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FWIW, the use of words like "bidon" is a pompous affectation and should be stamped out. It's "water bottle" innit?

I was referring to the initial word bottle when they were only made of glass. Of course, progress has changed it.

 

[nickyboy]

As I think I said last time this discussion limped onto these pages, "bidon" is a decently brief way of saying "A cycling specific water bottle", and seems a harmless enough affectation in the greater scheme of things. A chacun ses gouts, what?

Dans le nuit tous les chats son gris...what what?

 

[John the Monkey]

Dans le nuit tous les chats son gris...what what?

Certainement, mes gars, eh?

 

[ANT 666]

Its a bidon, unless its a sticky bottle.

 

[John the Monkey]

This started me thinking of how widespread the use of bidon is - exhibit (a) (a Belgian online retailer)
https://www.belgafietsen.nl/accessoires/bidons-en-bidonhouders/bidons/ (I assume the Flemish/Dutch would be "Fles"?)

Although Rose use "trinkflaschen" for the German language site, and "drinks bottles" for the English language site.
(Exhibit (b) https://www.rosebikes.co.uk/products/bike-accessories/bottles-and-hydration-systems/drinks-bottles/
...and (c) https://www.rosebikes.de/produkte/f...chen-und-systeme/trinkflaschen/trinkflaschen/ , Bidon returns for the Dutch language site;
Exhibit (d) https://www.rosebikes.nl/producten/fietsaccessoires/bidons-en-drinksystemen/bidons/ )

 

[John the Monkey]

Dutch retailer allesvoordefiets;

https://www.allesvoordefiets.nl/fietsaccessoires/bidons/bidons/bidons/

 

[pawl]

What's the difference. ?

Bottle once we are out of the EU.

 

[John the Monkey]

...as most other sports will have their own language of sorts.

I wonder whether Karate & Judo types have similar discussions over the Gi?

"Actually, it's called a karate suit."

 

[Dogtrousers]

Its a bidon, unless its a sticky bottle.

In which case it would be un bidon gluant - according to Google translate.

Further research indicates that the correct translation would be bidon collant or bidon collé but I think "gluant", which gives the impression of a bottle dripping with Evo-Stick is better.


There are some great terms there. I think we should use more of them. Longer phrases may require translation to English. Shorter ones can be used in the original French.

I felt like I had titanium socks today so I took the spad - you know, the one with the bracasse - but the road was a right arse tapper. I had the fringles, I'd forgotten my Pringles, I was about to bache, but we came to a downhill and I went down it like a box of soap.