Bike Thief Caught Red Handed

[Boondoggle]

A friend of mine found some thieve trying to drag his bike over his particularly high back wall, kicked him ito next year

That's simply not true. You have the right to defend yourself and your property using reasonable force. If charged, it would be up to the jury to decide whether you had been reasonable, but only a right wing loon would suggest that you should be allowed to administer a savage beating with no consequences.

The thief is on someone else property attempting to steal, if a "savage beating" were applied a little more often then perhaps people would think twice. Only a lefty loon would weigh the balance on the side of the criminal to the point where a home owner can't protect their home. The country is in the state of severe social decline it's in because of this weak attitude imo. You don't want a savage beating ? Don't enter my property uninvited!!!

 

[benb]

A friend of mine found some thieve trying to drag his bike over his particularly high back wall, kicked him ito next year


The thief is on someone else property attempting to steal, if a "savage beating" were applied a little more often then perhaps people would think twice. Only a lefty loon would weigh the balance on the side of the criminal to the point where a home owner can't protect their home. The country is in the state of severe social decline it's in because of this weak attitude imo. You don't want a savage beating ? Don't enter my property uninvited!!!

Then your friend is a violent thug, and no better than the thief.

Except no-one (except you) is suggesting that a home owner can't protect their home. Reasonable force is justified. A savage beating is not.

I'm not a fan of vigilante "justice".

 

[Gary E]

"It's like this officer, I was building an ornamental pond in my garden just in front of my shed door. So that the hole wouldn't fill with rain water I covered it with a green tarpaulin and weighed that down with a light scattering of earth to stop it blowing away. Oh yes, I put my garden fork and sheers in the bottom of the hole so they wouldn't rust out in the open"

Simples

 

[Boondoggle]

Then your friend is a violent thug, and no better than the thief.

Except no-one (except you) is suggesting that a home owner can't protect their home. Reasonable force is justified. A savage beating is not.

I'm not a fan of vigilante "justice".

I understand the boundaries of peoples homes and property, those who missed that memo need educating imo. I have my definition of reasonable force when someone has elected to enter my property with a view to stealing what I worked long and hard for, you have yours. We'll have to disagree on this one. The law has failed spectacularly thus far, I'll tread my own path.

 

[Boondoggle]

It's a much smaller annoyance but I got fed up with my car aerial being vandalised so I covered it in something that looked much like dog s***. Never happened again.

Car got keyed instead...

.......................and your car had something very similar to dog poop on it

 

[Enid Agnus Dei]

In this day and age the human rights are geared more to those who commit crime not the victims, we here so many times that those who commit crime are from a broken home or have some new (fake) illness when what they really need is to be taught how to respect others and what they own,

Bring back national service and let's make Britain Great Britain again.

 

[benb]

I understand the boundaries of peoples homes and property, those who missed that memo need educating imo. I have my definition of reasonable force when someone has elected to enter my property with a view to stealing what I worked long and hard for, you have yours. We'll have to disagree on this one. The law has failed spectacularly thus far, I'll tread my own path.

No, a jury will decide whether you used reasonable force, should you find yourself in that situation.

 

[Boondoggle]

No, a jury will decide whether you used reasonable force, should you find yourself in that situation.

Bawls to the jury and bawls to the law, the system has failed. I'm a decent person, I feel my judgement is better than the law makers in this land who have thus far enabled criminals to prosper at the expense of good folk. God help anyone found lurking around my property.

 

[Enid Agnus Dei]

Here here Boondoogle!

 

[benb]

Bawls to the jury and bawls to the law, the system has failed. I'm a decent person, I feel my judgement is better than the law makers in this land who have thus far enabled criminals to prosper at the expense of good folk. God help anyone found lurking around my property.

Righto. Let me know how that works out for you.

 

[Hip Priest]

I have no sympathy for any criminal who receives a good hiding whilst caught in the act of theft, but I'd advise homeowners against confronting intruders. You could get hurt, or they could get hurt and then you're in trouble.

 

[Boondoggle]

Righto. Let me know how that works out for you.

Sure, what's your full name and address ? If you could let me know what valuables you have in the house that would be great, thanks.

 

[Sale Madrid]

Bawls to the jury and bawls to the law, the system has failed. I'm a decent person, I feel my judgement is better than the law makers in this land who have thus far enabled criminals to prosper at the expense of good folk. God help anyone found lurking around my property.

I've been a Juror in a couple of trials and believe me, we're all doomed............half of the jurors were council estate scumbags with 3 brain cells between them. Unsurprisingly they had a lot of sympathy for the defendant on trial. I think your judgement is better than the law makers.

 

[sidevalve]

First, obviously you wouldn't leave any "defensive" object in place for the police to find and if anyone asks, well you simply dropped a box of nails and hadn't got around to picking them up yet.
Second, everybody has human rights however when a rational adult knowingly forces entry into anothers property they should be made aware that they have abandoned those rights. "Vigilante justice" [which, by the way I do not agree with either] does not apply, this is a case of someone defending his [or her] property and poss themselves ON that property while aprehending a criminal in the act. Once again it is a case of people accepting responsibility for thier actions, pleading "Oh poor me I've had a hard life" should be ignored, after all maybe the person they're stealing from had a "hard life" it's just that they got off their backsides and did something about it.
PS sorry for the rant but I feel untill we give rights to honest people and remove the rights of criminals our society is in a sick downward spiral.

 

[marzjennings]

Round here, in Texas, they'd have just shot him. In fact one guy got off when he shot two guys thiefing from his neighbours house with no imminent threat to his person.
I don't agree with that level of armed protection, but a good wallop is sometimes required.