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[Noodley]

Theres no question of the degree of botheration just that selfish inconsiderate bahaviour can and does annoy/bother.
Seems noodles has finally got it.

I have got it from the start, I just cannot see why anyone gets pissed off at someone else doing something that does nothing more than slightly inconvenience them. Especially when that thing is legal - I can see the correlation between minor inconveniences which are also illegal maybe pissing someone off. Like driving and eating a packet of crisps and tipping them down your throat from the packet thereby removing your eyes from the road and swerving across the carriageway...without slowing down.

 

[MissTillyFlop]

I have got it from the start, I just cannot see why anyone gets pissed off at someone else doing something that does nothing more than slightly inconvenience them. Especially when that thing is legal - I can see the correlation between minor inconveniences which are also illegal maybe pissing someone off.

Legal, schemgal.

My brother is entirely legal. He is, however, most annoying.

 

[twobiker]

I didn't consult an OS map as I wanted to share the location with others (hence Google Maps) - that way, others could assess the road layout themselves to see if that could have had a bearing on why there was a queue behind the cyclist. I understand why the focus is on the mobile phone use, but there are other contributory factors to consider (as others have tried to point out) and I can well imagine cycling down that stretch with both hands on the hoods, but still with a queue of cars behind me. Would I be using my phone, or fiddling in a jersey pocket at that particualry junction, "No" is the answer.

It's OK, my feelings towards your mother-in-law are more of empathetic, than amourous.

Anyway, I'm sorry if I have offended you - I though this was just a bit of banter, but I can see you are getting a bit het up. Apologies.

I am not het up hence my comments regarding M-i-L, but strangely some posters do drag on about something just to annoy, I understand that you were not one of those.

 

[Noodley]

I think maybe the OP even wasn't p'd off, more astounded at the breathtaking idiocy of someone going up hill, on a bike texting with a queue behind him.

You have just made that up, nowhere in the OP does it say going up a hill nor that he was texting - he was dialling according to the OP.

 

[twobiker]

I would have to stop to text as I need to wear my glasses ,can you imagine taking your eyes off the road long enough to write a message,

 

[MissTillyFlop]

You have just made that up, nowhere in the OP does it say going up a hill nor that he was texting - he was dialling according to the OP.

Because the action of pushing buttons to make numbers appear on the screen or pushing buttons to make letters appear on the screen are two different processes entirely!

The point is his thought process was the same - there wasn't one.

Can we calm down a bit please? This is an internet chatroom, not a court of law; it doesn't matter if people get things slightly wrong.

 

[mickle]

Assuming it were legal, and just for the sake of this discussion, lets imagine a car parked at the point where our cyclist is on the road. 'Around' twenty cars are delayed as a result.

Would anyone witnessing this event consider it memorable enough to start a new thread on the subject on an internet discussion forum when they arrived home?

Of course they wouldn't. Is there any difference in the level of 'selfishness and inconsideration' to others between our cyclists behaviour and the person who parked their car?

My point is that we as a society have come to accept the 'rights' of cars to 'make good progress' as normal. The default. In the olden days (I'm old enough to remember them) cars used to slow down when they saw kids on or near the road. Now they dont, they expect the kids to leap out of their way.

We are at the point in our tolerance/acceptance/normalization of the motor car that old ladies try to break in to a jog to get accross zebra crossings sharpish so as to minimise the inconvenience to the cars.

Take your car-centric blinkers off.

 

[apollo179]

I raised that question a few pages ago and it got ignored.......

Thats a real mystery that is then.

 

[wiggydiggy]

He could have been. But why be so bothered by it?

I'm not that bothered, just sharing and agreeing with people the opinion that deliberately holding up traffic when unnecessary isnt always the best way to cycle. Its all about demonstrating a responsible and considerate cycling attitude that reasonable drivers can recognise and return the favour in kind.

I have got it from the start, I just cannot see why [drivers] get pissed off at someone else doing something that does nothing more than slightly inconvenience them. Especially when that thing is legal - I can see the correlation between minor inconveniences which are also illegal maybe pissing someone off. Like driving and eating a packet of crisps and tipping them down your throat from the packet thereby removing your eyes from the road and swerving across the carriageway...without slowing down.

I know but I have just changed 1 word as I think it makes your point better - drivers can and will get annoyed at anything that delays them and agree its OTT to react any different than just waiting on this occasion.

But it doesnt mean we (any of us) as cyclists should start to inconvience ourselves automatically for the benefit of others, but we should at least demonstrate the ability to recognise that we can make things easier for ourselves on occasion?

So far from all the answers I've read, I think only Mickle may have the ability to recognise he could make things easier but he still chooses not to.

 

[mickle]

Because the action of pushing buttons to make numbers appear on the screen or pushing buttons to make letters appear on the screen are two different processes entirely!

The point is his thought process was the same - there wasn't one.

Can we calm down a bit please? This is an internet chatroom, not a court of law; it doesn't matter if people get things slightly wrong.

Everyone is perfectly calm. We are all friends here, simply having a fun, if occasionally heated debate.

 

[Noodley]

Can we calm down a bit please?

You are assuming I am not calm?

 

[MissTillyFlop]

There is no end of inconsiderate and selfish behaviour on our roads and just about everywhere else for that matter. The thing that interests me about this is the idea that this one example reflects badly on us all, when other examples of poor behaviour by other classes of road user are taken as individual behaviour in isolation.
Does anyone have any useful insight on this one?

Well I think the problem comes from any case where you judge a massive group of people based on an individual's actions.

Being a woman and having driven in the past, I'm afraid I was also judged on others' actions.

We all do it. It's an unhelpful element of human nature.

 

[MissTillyFlop]

You are assuming I am not calm?

Well when you said "You just made that up nowhere does the OP say....... rah de rah", I assumed that you thought it mattered.

 

[4F]

Thats a real mystery that is then.

Yawn, I believe you were in the throws of the RLJ denial at the time

 

[twobiker]

Assuming it were legal, and just for the sake of this discussion, lets imagine a car parked at the point where our cyclist is on the road. 'Around' twenty cars are delayed as a result.

Would anyone witnessing this event consider it memorable enough to start a new thread on the subject on an internet discussion forum when they arrived home?

Of course they wouldn't. Is there any difference in the level of 'selfishness and inconsideration' to others between our cyclists behaviour and the person who parked their car?

My point is that we as a society have come to accept the 'rights' of cars to 'make good progress' as normal. The default. In the olden days (I'm old enough to remember them) cars used to slow down when they saw kids on or near the road. Now they dont, they expect the kids to leap out of their way.

We are at the point in our tolerance/acceptance/normalization of the motor car that old ladies try to break in to a jog to get accross zebra crossings sharpish so as to minimise the inconvenience to the cars.

Take your car-centric blinkers off.

you could start a thread on it but not on a cycle forum. Hmmm old ladies jogging, new spectator sport ?