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[apollo179]

So it is OK to RLJ but not cycle slowly one handed ?

What do you think is going to pee off motorists more. ?

Wake up and smell the coffee

I think what would pee of anyone more would be sharing space with someone who makes such a moronic comment as that.
Your whole premise is incorrect.
It is not ok to rlj.
It is not ok to cycle one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on mobile phone causing a tailback of peed off motorists.

 

[Noodley]

It is not ok to rlj.
It is not ok to cycle one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on mobile phone causing a tailback of peed off motorists.

Do you RLJ?

 

[apollo179]

You've changed your mind on this issue?

Youve done very cleverly hyjacking this topic with concerns over my rljing adrian .
for the record as i have repeatedly clearly expressed elsewhere - my rlj behaviour has changed.
before i joined this forum i did not even realise it was wrong to rlj.
I now do and have altered my behaviour accordingly.
So can we move past this agenda to discredit me on the grounds of some past historical rljing - although again well done adrain , very admirable , well done.
I suspect these low cowardly tactics just reflect the weakness of your position regarding the op topic.

 

[4F]

I think what would pee of anyone more would be sharing space with someone who makes such a moronic comment as that.
Your whole premise is incorrect.
It is not ok to rlj.
It is not ok to cycle one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on mobile phone causing a tailback of peed off motorists.

Keep back tracking......

 

[apollo179]

Keep back tracking......

I just dont agree with your opinion that it is ok to cycle one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on mobile phone causing a tailback of peed off motorists.

 

[Noodley]

I just dont agree with your opinion that it is ok to cycle one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on mobile phone causing a tailback of peed off motorists.

What part(s) do you think pisses the drivers off? And why?

 

[apollo179]

You have agreed previously that the cyclist is behaving in a manner lacking courtesy and consideration.
I think that the cyclist cyclling without courtesy or consideration to other traffic causing a tailback is what pees of the other road users.
Why - because we are all human beings.

 

[Noodley]

You have agreed previously that the cyclist is behaving in a manner lacking courtesy and consideration.
I think that the cyclist cyclling without courtesy or consideration to other traffic causing a tailback is what pees of the other road users.
Why - because we are all human beings.

I have also said it would not piss me off. So what is it that causes them to be pissed off?

 

[apollo179]

I have also said it would not piss me off. So what is it that causes them to be pissed off?

the cyclist cyclling without courtesy or consideration to other traffic causing a tailback

 

[4F]

You have agreed previously that the cyclist is behaving in a manner lacking courtesy and consideration.
I think that the cyclist cyclling without courtesy or consideration to other traffic causing a tailback is what pees of the other road users.
Why - because we are all human beings.

But getting back to a question of which no one has been able to answer yet:-

What speed would the cyclist have to be doing to be considered as riding ok ? What if he was riding slowly because he was taking a drink from his bidon rather than holding a phone, would that be Ok with you although he would have been doing the same speed ?

It should be remembered that this road is not a single track road but an A road.

The real hang up here seems to be the fact that he was on his phone.

 

[Scilly Suffolk]

Some people are considerate of those around them and behave accordingly.

Some people are not considerate of those around them and behave accordingly.

All cyclists and all drivers are people. Some people are both cyclists and drivers.

Therefore some cyclists/drivers are considerate of those around them and behave accordingly; and some cyclists/drivers are not considerate of those around them and behave accordingly.

So it is quite wrong to refer to "cyclists" and "drivers" as if they were single, unified groups.

 

[twobiker]

I know the A381 goes from Totnes to Kingsbridge. So why mention Kingsbridge Hill (it only confuses the issue) as the incident did not take place there!

Please pass on my sympathies to your mother-in-law: I can see how she would struggle with your cryptic directions.

I called it the Kingsbridge Hill because that is what all the locals call it and it was called that before it became the Western Bypass,I was hoping to use it as a point of reference for you as you are meandering around all over the place , for some one who claims to have cycled round the South Hams you do not seem to know much about it, also it is the Mother-in-law who gives the dodgy directions, by the way did you cycle your commute to Plympton ?,possibly not, Oh and you could try addressing the real point of the post instead of stumbling around like Blind Pugh in a coalmine and say if you think if a minorities behaviour has an effect on the way the majority are judged.

 

[Norm]

What speed would the cyclist have to be doing to be considered as riding ok ? What if he was riding slowly because he was taking a drink from his bidon rather than holding a phone, would that be Ok with you although he would have been doing the same speed ?

Really? I thought that had been covered this several times.

A person using x form of transport (this could be a car, tractor, lorry, 4x4, bus or bicycle) appeared to be acting selfishly by travelling slowly because their attention isn't on the road. Those who are unnecessarily held up, not by the person's presence in a slow moving vehicle but by their apparently selfish actions, will generalise and tar other users of the same form of transport with the same brush.

If the chosen vehicle of the apparently selfish person was a tractor, bus etc, then that wouldn't be too relevant, other than as an excuse for a rant. But the chosen vehicle was a bike, so it's us getting tarred here.

My question was not about cyclists nor about how slow is too slow. The frustration was not a result of the absolute speed, as I've already acknowledged further up.

The issue is that there appeared to be a person needlessly delaying other people by performing a selfish act.

I'm not certain, but maybe some people could find it annoying that they are forced to travel unnecessarily slowly by someone who is being selfish as well as being dangerous by tarting around with their phone in the middle of the road.

If someone is riding slowly because they ride slowly, they are just one of any number of people who rides slowly.

This person was riding slowly because they were being visibly and obviously selfish, being ignorant of other road users and lacking in even the most basic of courtesies.

That depends on the reasons. If someone was in recovery stage of interval training, then that wouldn't be an issue for me, similarly if someone was riding with kids or on a poor road surface.

However, if someone is slowing down to do something which has been proven for motorised road users to be more dangerous than drink driving, or travelling slowly because they were exercising their dog or carrying an unsafe load then that would be frustrating (as I said earlier) whatever their chosen mode of transport.

The fact that this was a cyclist is not the issue for me and maybe others could consider how they'd feel if the person wasn't on a bike. What if it was a tractor driving slowly as their load wasn't safe? What if it was a pick up truck doing 5mph because the driver's family were having a picnic in the flatbed?

Ride up behind a steam engine doing 5mph and all is well with the world. Ride up behind a car doing 5mph because the driver doesn't give a toss about other road users and you'll get frustrated.

IMO.

 

[totallyfixed]

As seems to be the usual with these longer running topics, views become ever more entrenched and eventually only a very few are left in what becomes a pissing contest with the obligatory wind up merchant thrown in for good measure.
Can't we just have a poll on this one now in the hope of attracting more members views? Is it ok to use a mobile phone whilst cycling? Maybe this could start as another thread.
The riding slowly thing is a bit of a red herring, we all ride slowly at some point irrespective of other vehicles on the road.

 

[twobiker]

As seems to be the usual with these longer running topics, views become ever more entrenched and eventually only a very few are left in what becomes a pissing contest with the obligatory wind up merchant thrown in for good measure.
Can't we just have a poll on this one now in the hope of attracting more members views? Is it ok to use a mobile phone whilst cycling? Maybe this could start as another thread.
The riding slowly thing is a bit of a red herring, we all ride slowly at some point irrespective of other vehicles on the road.

But should we let them go past ?.