Autralian cycle hating truck driver intentionally splashes group of cyclists (Vid clip)

[Levo-Lon]

Why were the cyclist's in the middle lane? Or have i missed something

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Why were the cyclist's in the middle lane? Or have i missed something

They were in the correct lane for their journey. The lane to their left is a slip onto a road which cyclists are prohibited from riding on.

GC

 

[jarlrmai]

So drawing on the above information and discussion - and I'm not advocating that this is sensible - provided the driver is not "distracted" and remains "in control" of their vehicle, the use of a hand held camera (not integrated with a communication device) while driving is not per se illegal.

"Or similar device" is a VERY broad term, pretty much any device that requires interaction could be considered "similar" even if it doesn't facilitate communication. It's a very broad term which allows for a wide range of interpretations as devices evolve.

 

[Ajax Bay]

"It’s illegal to ride a motorcycle or drive using hand-held phones or similar devices. https://www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phones-when-driving-the-law"

"Or similar device" is a VERY broad term, pretty much any device that requires interaction could be considered "similar" even if it doesn't facilitate communication.

With all due respect, although a variety of mobile phone shaped objects COULD be considered 'similar' I suggest the change of law (gestation and catalyst described above) is designed to remove the 'Carr defence' and not to include other non-communication devices with screens. It's the communication interaction (mobile phone use) which catastrophically reduces motorists' attention to the road and the other users thereon. Other distractions which result in careless driving (but only if they do) (eg maps, lipstick application, shaving, eating, drinking, disciplining children, smoking) can be addressed (and hopefully deterred) using the dwdcaa charge.

 

[jarlrmai]

So if I dictated to my phone with no SIM card and cause no problems in which one is that?

 

[Ajax Bay]

Think you can answer that yourself and I'd agree with you. It's manufactured as a phone, so it's 'similar' as in ""It’s illegal to ride a motorcycle or drive using hand-held phones or similar devices." Dwdcaa does not have to be shown in such instances.

 

[jarlrmai]

Okay I narrate a letter to my lipstick, what's the difference?

 

[classic33]

Okay I narrate a letter to my lipstick, what's the difference?

You have recording lipstick!

 

[jarlrmai]

No but speaking to an inanimate object is not really any difference to speaking into any other device, the key aspect of the interpretation of the law I think that is under discussion is do you have to be using the device to communicate in order for "similar device" to apply? Or does the device have to be capable of communication alone.