At last a challenge to Big Pat

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oldroadman

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Oldroadman, how many on the Board will go down with Pat ?
How would I know? A guess would be that there may be several "resignations" as the president seems to have a lot of clout when it comes to appionting commissions, although the management committee is elected at congress. As usual at this level, it would not be a surprise to find votes being bartered, just like the IOC, allegedly.
One thing that needs to happen though is the exclusion of HV from any connection with UCI business, and I hope that, if elected, Mr Cookson will make this get this sorted out. HV is "Honorary President" whatever that is, and I can't find that anywhere authorised by the UCI constitution. An invention which allows a good degree of string pulling, probably. Having met Mr C a couple of times, he did not strike me as someone who even has a string to pull, seems a really straight person who wants to do the best for the sport.
Has anyone looked at the election process? The college is only 42, and so 23 bvotes would win it. Americas have 9, Europe 14, Oceania (Australia etc) 3, so get those and the job's done, however much anyone sweetens the Asians and Africans. Here's hoping.
The way PMcQ is running his "campaign" shows all the signs of someone in a corner that's hard to get out of.
 

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Has anyone looked at the election process? The college is only 42, and so 23 bvotes would win it. Americas have 9, Europe 14, Oceania (Australia etc) 3, so get those and the job's done, however much anyone sweetens the Asians and Africans. Here's hoping.
22 votes will do it - 21 is an equal split.
I heard Europe & Oceania mostly lined up behind Cookson with the Americas deliberating & Asia/Africa liking McQ.
Full Euro & Oceanic votes & 5 from Americas would do it but I doubt CHF will back Cookson and conceivably others too.
The thing that could really swing it to Cookson is if Plant's dossier gets circulated and has indeed got substance to it. I think Cookson will want to stay at arms length from that though.
 
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BJH

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I am banking on a mysterious rule change which will prevent him losing.

Much as he needs to go, I will wait until it actually happens before I get excited about it.
 

oldroadman

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If it's a secret ballot (surely it must be) then even mandated delegates could switch votes, if they felt it was the right thing to do. Of course, there is no question or evidence of any incentive to do so, but it's a possibility. I wonder if Brian Cookson is out and about on the TdF, getting seen, what happens when he and PMcQ run into each other? If they both were in Paris, and there was a British winner, etc... Cue resumption of a clean campaign by the incumbent!
 

resal

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If it's a secret ballot (surely it must be) then even mandated delegates could switch votes, if they felt it was the right thing to do. Of course, there is no question or evidence of any incentive to do so, but it's a possibility. I wonder if Brian Cookson is out and about on the TdF, getting seen, what happens when he and PMcQ run into each other? If they both were in Paris, and there was a British winner, etc... Cue resumption of a clean campaign by the incumbent!
Quite the running commentary !
 

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oldroadman

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A clear ttempt to bend the rules to suit one candidate, this sort of nonsense brings the incumbent and the federations concerned into disrepute, and with them the whole sport. It's appalling, and we can only hope that the increasingly desparate efforts to hang on to a presidency long past any sell by date get the treatment they deserve at the UCI congress - after they throw out the rule change proposal from two clearly malleable federations. If PMcQ wins this election, how long before a revolution where all the decent federations simply walk away and set up a new organisation?
 

resal

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A clear ttempt to bend the rules to suit one candidate, this sort of nonsense brings the incumbent and the federations concerned into disrepute, and with them the whole sport. It's appalling, and we can only hope that the increasingly desparate efforts to hang on to a presidency long past any sell by date get the treatment they deserve at the UCI congress - after they throw out the rule change proposal from two clearly malleable federations. If PMcQ wins this election, how long before a revolution where all the decent federations simply walk away and set up a new organisation?
Nothing one would not expect from McQuaid. I really want somebody decent at the helm. The biggest witness to Cookson's unsuitability is that he has failed to lead a departure by the decent guys, but instead has continued to sup from the cup. From 2004 it was obvious to all but the most dull, that there was something seriously wrong at the top. I have made the point before but it is critical - why didin't Cookson ask to see the accounts for the year the cheque arrived in the mail, out of the blue, from Lance. It was a critical moment of principle - one on which an honourable man could resign.

I want Pat to be kicked out and I want somebody to come in and shake up the sport but I don't see any serious agent for change on the horizon. It might be best for Pat to win. Then a proper break away operation could start with a very clean sheet. The obvious problem is that it does not want to get like triathlon with 3 independent World governing bodies, but I think the situation here is different. The past is so filthy and we can trust so few records or achievements from it, a break is required.
 
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