I've not read that any date has been given for Bruyneel's hearing as yet. I suspect it will be after August 10th so (under the scenario I gave above, i.e. Armstrong not contesting) Bruyneel's hearing would actually be after Armstrong is sanctioned.
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I've not read that any date has been given for Bruyneel's hearing as yet. I suspect it will be after August 10th so (under the scenario I gave above, i.e. Armstrong not contesting) Bruyneel's hearing would actually be after Armstrong is sanctioned.
I suspect that should Armstrong be sanctioned by USADA he'll be far too busy defending law suits and the like to issue PR statements about haterz etc!
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Would make more sense too. There must be a lot of evidence in common and you don't want to waste star witnesses and headline evidence on the small fish first. Actually, thinking about it, how do they deal with that? Also, when does Celaya go to court?
You don't think Armstrong will contest this? I think he'll take it to the wire!
Why do you think he won't contest it, if being sanctioned means he'll be so busy defending lawsuits he won't even have the time to issue PR statements?
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He's got a big team for the law suits (hellloooooooo SCA!!!!) and I suspect that the Yellow Ribboners and celebrity chums will stand by him. I'd give £5 to a legit cancer charity if he doesn't go down the 'kangaroo court, no right to defend myself, unconstitutional' line of defence. If he chooses not to defend ('unfair trial, biased jury' etc) that will be considered the smallest of small print and he's a brazen enough liar that he might just get away with it.
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If he doesn't contest then the evidence doesn't get heard and I doubt Mr A wants his filthy laundry aired in public. Of course this does rather depend on Bruyneel and Celaya opting for the same and I think Celaya has decided to fight.
Yello is yer man for the detail and process though.
No, Yello is too impulsive, shoots from the hip, he lets his emotions interfere with logical process. He's not a bad sort though!
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Who? What other lawsuits?
LA won a case against SCA who wanted to withhold a $5m bonus payment after they got wind that
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I thought Bradley described him well the other day.
2 reasons why I believe Armstrong wont contest (and Chuffy's mentioned one); Armstrong wants to stop the evidence seeing the light of day, and secondly, to contest means he accepts USADA's arbitration process.
IF the court case goes ahead (that is, Sparks does not dismiss it out of hand) THEN Armstrong will fight that "to the wire" (obviously, it's his action).
I am certainly not impulsive. I do a good degree of sifting and sorting of info before I post here. Equally, whilst my position on Armstrong is obvious, I'd like to think my assessment of that info isn't driven by emotion and remains clear headed. If my posts appear one-sided then it's simply that there isn't too much in the way of good news for team Armstrong.
One thing I am going to remain resolute in is not getting drawn into petty forum squabbles. Neither will I get personal. What people choose to believe is down to them and you'll receive no barbed or sarcastic remarks from me about it. After all, none of us knows 'the truth' and until such a time, all of our opinions are as valid as each others (though with varying degrees of probability!) So it follows that I don't believe that I am 'right'. If I don't understand someone's position then I will ask because, believe it or not, I'm interested in the subject and want to know where I've missed, or not considered, something.
Finally, more than anything in this discussion, I want to see people contribute from a knowledgeable background and/or with a considered perspective. It doesn't matter if I disagree with the view (as I said, I don't take it personally) - I've read enough on the subject now for the emotions not to kick in.
IF the court case goes ahead (that is, Sparks does not dismiss it out of hand) THEN Armstrong will fight that "to the wire" (obviously, it's his action).
I am certainly not impulsive. I do a good degree of sifting and sorting of info before I post here. Equally, whilst my position on Armstrong is obvious, I'd like to think my assessment of that info isn't driven by emotion and remains clear headed. If my posts appear one-sided then it's simply that there isn't too much in the way of good news for team Armstrong.
One thing I am going to remain resolute in is not getting drawn into petty forum squabbles. Neither will I get personal. What people choose to believe is down to them and you'll receive no barbed or sarcastic remarks from me about it. After all, none of us knows 'the truth' and until such a time, all of our opinions are as valid as each others (though with varying degrees of probability!) So it follows that I don't believe that I am 'right'. If I don't understand someone's position then I will ask because, believe it or not, I'm interested in the subject and want to know where I've missed, or not considered, something.
Finally, more than anything in this discussion, I want to see people contribute from a knowledgeable background and/or with a considered perspective. It doesn't matter if I disagree with the view (as I said, I don't take it personally) - I've read enough on the subject now for the emotions not to kick in.
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There is a lot of irrational HATE here for my boy lance Armstrong
I have to ask, did you guys hate so much on a jucied up David millar? Or is David a Saint as he's a brit and LA is a big bad yank?
I have to ask, did you guys hate so much on a jucied up David millar? Or is David a Saint as he's a brit and LA is a big bad yank?
I've not read a date fixed for that either. Again, I'd guess after the 10th August and before the 'before November' date USADA originally gave when they made the charges.
Where is the irrationality? Please, if you see a flawed argument then point it out. Let's discuss it. I'm serious, What drives me now is not hatred, I'm past that, it's a desire to know and to understand.
It's a different subject but there's no nationalism at play here - I'm not "a brit" either.
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Plenty of drug cheats in Procycling some famous, some not so. I can't remember hearing of any getting taken to the cleaners by sponsors etc. I wondered what precedent there was, if any?
That's what I'm getting at!
Plenty of drug cheats in Procycling some famous, some not so. I can't remember hearing of any getting taken to the cleaners by sponsors etc. I wondered what precedent there was, if any?
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