AIUI the system works its way up the Honours for sustained contribution. So if he continues to do well he may well get upgraded in another 5 years to an OBE, CBE or Knighthood.
Arise Sir Cav....
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AIUI the system works its way up the Honours for sustained contribution. So if he continues to do well he may well get upgraded in another 5 years to an OBE, CBE or Knighthood.
asterix
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So is it the same in other countries? It's all a bit pinko-commie-stateist to me. But if that's how it is, why not Cavendish?
philipbh
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Not so!
I know a bloke, who knows a bloke whose mum has just got a CBE (first gong - bye's in first two rounds so to speak
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Not so!
I know a bloke, who knows a bloke whose mum has just got a CBE (first gong - bye's in first two rounds so to speak
Yes, completely agree, it is not a promotion system. But some people do get more than one award in their lifetime.
RedRider
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Knight to see you, to see you knight.
StHuck
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Honours systems is slighty ludicrous and not to be taken too seriously so if he is as worthy as any sportsman who excels in their field.....I just wish it was a civic award and without Royal associations and wedded to the notion of a historical Empire that I for one feel uncomfortable with. But, my pedantry aside, fair play to the man
Not so!
I know a bloke, who knows a bloke whose mum has just got a CBE (first gong - bye's in first two rounds so to speak
"He was made an OBE in 1998, and a CBE in 2005 and since then there has been considerable speculation about when he might be knighted. A spokesman for the Cabinet Office, which manages the honours system, said: "Generally speaking, committees like to see another four or five years' further achievement or service before they start to consider a further award.""
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13728375
oldroadman
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So, if the letter came, would all you doubters turn it down then, do a "John Lennon" and hand it back, or not?
Whoever said "all Cav has done is win a few stages", a slight understatement....! Anyone who even gets round the TdF is at a VERY high level. The poster clearly has no idea of the long road to this level of performance, or just how tough and unforgiving the pro peloton can be. There are no "easy" wins, believe me.
Whoever said "all Cav has done is win a few stages", a slight understatement....! Anyone who even gets round the TdF is at a VERY high level. The poster clearly has no idea of the long road to this level of performance, or just how tough and unforgiving the pro peloton can be. There are no "easy" wins, believe me.
I assume you're talking about me. Your response necessitates a reply, if merely to clear up some of the assumptions you make.
Your straw man argument about a whether or not I would accept an honour is totally irrelevant. I never said Cav shouldn't have agreed to take it. Again, I don't think simply being a sportsman that wins things means you are entitled to an honour at 26 years old. I don't see why cycling being difficult means that there a person posseses more of a right to an honour, which is what you suggest.
philipbh
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The members of the honours committee think differently
Praise be upon them, our glorious leaders, who act and think always in the best interest! Fain would I efface my loathsome opinions in light of their most noble decisions!
And so on.
Lewis Hamilton got an MBE at 23 after just two seasons in Formula One.
philipbh
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Shameless popularisers perhaps - recall that Kelly Holmes was made (created?) a Dame for running the fastest a few times in the Olympics
Oh I totally agree that the problem is systemic.
I have nothing against Cav (in this context).
Chromatic
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I'm with Adasta on this. I've never really understood why sporting achievement is so honoured whilst the recipients are still mid career. I reckon fair enough after retirement, especially from a succesful career where the recipient has been a model example of sportmanship etc.
I have thought the same with the cricketers and rugby players awards in the recent past; sure, beating the aussies in their own backyard at cricket is an excellent sporting achievement, as was winning the rugby world cup, but that is all they were. The winning of a few games of cricket and rugby is after all what these guys were picked and paid to do.
Mind you what we've seen with recent sporting honours will be nothing compared to what would ensue if the English football team actually won something, although since they are, to a man, over-rated useless tossers, we're safe on that score.
I have thought the same with the cricketers and rugby players awards in the recent past; sure, beating the aussies in their own backyard at cricket is an excellent sporting achievement, as was winning the rugby world cup, but that is all they were. The winning of a few games of cricket and rugby is after all what these guys were picked and paid to do.
Mind you what we've seen with recent sporting honours will be nothing compared to what would ensue if the English football team actually won something, although since they are, to a man, over-rated useless tossers, we're safe on that score.
