Anyone Tried shining a light on the road to the side of you?

[grldtnr]

Nah. They think they know exactly what you are and no driver wants to be in the newspaper for squishing a paralympian!

If that's the case, then why do upwrong riders get so many close passes and abuse.
That statement be reinforced my view that drivers simply dismiss the right cyclist to be on the road
I might ride a Recumbent trike, but I am not disabled to any great degree, apart from arthritic old knees.

 

[Alex321]

Actually checked with the company who own the vehicle, and more of the same, shown in the picture.

If they told you it is legal, they were wrong.

Blue flashing lights are not legal on any road vehicle except emergency vehicles.

The only flashing lights allowed oin anything else on the roads are bicycle lights, indicator lights (which must be amber), and amber "beacons".

Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796

Lamps to show a steady light​

13.—(1) Save as provided in paragraph (2), no vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which automatically emits a flashing light.

(2) Paragraph (1) does not apply in respect of–

(a)a direction indicator;

(b)a headlamp fitted to an emergency vehicle [F72or a vehicle used for special forces purposes];

(c)a warning beacon or special warning lamp;

(d)a lamp or illuminated sign fitted to a vehicle used for police purposes;

(e)a green warning lamp used as an anti-lock brake indicator; F73...

(f)lamps forming part of a traffic sign;

[F74(g)a front position lamp capable of emitting a flashing light (whether or not it is also capable of emitting a steady light) which is fitted to—

(i)a pedal cycle; or

(ii)a trailer drawn by, or a sidecar attached to, a pedal cycle;

and which, if it is a lamp which is required to be fitted pursuant to regulation 18, is capable, when emitting a flashing light, of emitting light to the front of the pedal cycle, trailer or sidecar (as the case may be) of an intensity of not less than 4 candelas; or

(h)a rear position lamp capable of emitting a flashing light (whether or not it is also capable of emitting a steady light) which is fitted to—

(i)a pedal cycle; or

(ii)a trailer drawn by, or a sidecar attached to, a pedal cycle;

and which, if it is a lamp which is required to be fitted pursuant to regulation 18, is capable, when emitting a flashing light, of emitting light to the rear of the pedal cycle, trailer or sidecar (as the case may be) of an intensity of not less than 4 candelas.]

Restrictions on fitting blue warning beacons, special warning lamps and similar devices​

16. No vehicle, other than an emergency vehicle [F76or a vehicle used for special forces purposes], shall be fitted with–

(a)a blue warning beacon or special warning lamp, or

(b)a device which resembles a blue warning beacon or a special warning lamp, whether the same is in working order or not.

 

[Alex321]

If that's the case, then why do upwrong riders get so many close passes and abuse.
That statement be reinforced my view that drivers simply dismiss the right cyclist to be on the road
I might ride a Recumbent trike, but I am not disabled to any great degree, apart from arthritic old knees.

I don't know of anybody who is an "upwrong rider", so who do you think you are talking about?

Please don't be so dismissive of the majority of cyclists on here.

 

[mjr]

I might ride a Recumbent trike, but I am not disabled to any great degree, apart from arthritic old knees.

Yeah, I know. Same sort of thing is true of most recumbent riders I know. I don't think most drivers realise that, though. I'd love to see any research on it but I don't think anyone's ever asked them.

 

[grldtnr]

I don't know of anybody who is an "upwrong rider", so who do you think you are talking about?

Please don't be so dismissive of the majority of cyclists on here.

Ey Alex 321 Chill !
It's just a bit of banter, almost all cyclist on this forum are 'Upwrongers', I sometimes use an Upwrong conventional diamond framed safety bike myself, I have more conventional bikes than recumbents 5:2 ratio.
It's just that when if you ever cross over to the dark side and ride a recumbent, you may realise how much more comfortable and efficient laid back cycling is......and that you have got it all wrong......'Upwrong'...isn't an abusive or dismissive, more to the point, upwrongers are dismissive of recumbents,
So Chillax Alex......enjoy the difference, it isn't all about the bike....see my avatar thats onevof my trikes, i can comfortably carry all that gear and still enjoy the ride, could you say the same?

 

[Alex321]

Ey Alex 321 Chill !
It's just a bit of banter, almost all cyclist on this forum are 'Upwrongers', I sometimes use an Upwrong conventional diamond framed safety bike myself, I have more conventional bikes than recumbents 5:2 ratio.
It's just that when if you ever cross over to the dark side and ride a recumbent, you may realise how much more comfortable and efficient laid back cycling is......and that you have got it all wrong......'Upwrong'...isn't an abusive or dismissive, more to the point, upwrongers are dismissive of recumbents,
So Chillax Alex......enjoy the difference, it isn't all about the bike....see my avatar thats onevof my trikes, i can comfortably carry all that gear and still enjoy the ride, could you say the same?

No I couldn't. But then I would never be dismissive about recumbents. They are just another way of cycling.

 

[grldtnr]

No I couldn't. But then I would never be dismissive about recumbents. They are just another way of cycling.

🤷, and there's a cyclist who never going to admit that they may not be wrong! Or 'up wrong ';
Maybe see you down the road ,if I am on my upright bike,, but not if i am on the recumbent,

 

[matticus]

i can comfortably carry all that gear and still enjoy the ride

Noted - and it easily carries that massive chip when it occasionally falls off your shoulder!

 

[presta]

Do Alternators take more power if they're outputting more current

Yes, or they'd contravene the laws of thermodynamics.

but you're recharging the battery from starting the engine so I'd think they're working at 'full chat' anyway

You've just said that they can do both at the same time:

a modern car with an alternator you can run pretty much every electric device in the car and still be charging the battery

Any extra energy you succeed in getting from the alternator has to come from the fuel tank via the engine.

 

[lazybloke]

Any extra energy you succeed in getting from the alternator has to come from the fuel tank via the engine.

Plenty of energy in the fuel tank; the energy density of gasoline is huge, so even with the inefficiency of internal combustion engines, a modern car alternator can generate low kilowatts of power (about 1000x that of a decent bike 'dynamo' hub).

 

[presta]

Plenty of energy in the fuel tank; the energy density of gasoline is huge, so even with the inefficiency of internal combustion engines, a modern car alternator can generate low kilowatts of power (about 1000x that of a decent bike 'dynamo' hub).

I haven't said there isn't. I was replying to someone who argued with the assertion that energy to drive the alternator comes from the fuel tank.

 

[fossyant]

🤷, and there's a cyclist who never going to admit that they may not be wrong! Or 'up wrong ';
Maybe see you down the road ,if I am on my upright bike,, but not if i am on the recumbent,

Fight !

 

[fossyant]

Any excuse to use those emoji

 

[Drago]

I haven't said there isn't. I was replying to someone who argued with the assertion that energy to drive the alternator comes from the fuel tank.

Take a car with an empty tank and see how much energy the alternator outputs.

 

[grldtnr]

Fight !

Just some have closed minds, but not me , if you can ride a bike, whatever it is , gotta be better than a brain dead motorist, who sees us cyclist as the spawn of the devil.
I should point out I do ride 'upwrongs' as well, its just a term us laid back , low down ,layabout cyclist for the up tight ,upright cyclist, whom appears to loath us kicked back recumbenteers, .....had a fair bit of that, untill i have launched myself away...... admittedly not up hill , but then I'm mountain goat.