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Any serving soldiers could give my son some fitness advice.
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From my experiences with the RM, he needs to get friendly with the standard press up position along with various variations. ... wide/narrow/ elevated feet etc
Chin ups, situps and burpees were also among the PTI's favourites. The good thing with all those exercises are they don't require any specialist equipment.
Chin ups, situps and burpees were also among the PTI's favourites. The good thing with all those exercises are they don't require any specialist equipment.
Linford
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The bloke i bought my car from in Hereford didn't make any such claim, but the pics and paraphenalia told a different story on his study wall. He was a skinny dude and whilst well spoken was unassuming, lived in a very nice house and had been using the car to ferry families of footballers around in Manchester. He sold it as he wanted to retrain as a driving instructor. I am 100% certain he was though...Most people who claim to have been SAS weren't!
But back on topic, the PT Corps have a "manual" that is published as a guide to fitness:
an ex director at our place was ex SAS (or so everyone thought) and a guy at work who was in TA was always going on about how he could do more chin ups in the gym than him and he didn't think he was that good and what was all the fuss about bla bla. Mr SAS was a very softly spoken humble gentlemen (the girls would swoon) and Mr TA was just a jumped up self centred obnoxious twat
i got on very well with Mr SAS and we would sit in his office and have a bit of a giggle about it. He'd never actually say a bad word about Mr TA but the banter was always along the lines of how he should have joined the TA coz then he would be better at chin ups and i would have even considered letting him come cycling but there's no way he's gonna keep up without TA training etc. Every chance i got to compare him to TA I would drop it out and the banter was brill ... Then one day i was admiring his "wings" (believe me, there was a lot more to admire but i wasn't allowed to touch anything else LOL) and he told me he was not in the SAS, he was ex-SBS.
Mr TA went white when i told him. Apparently the SBS is the dogs bollox compared to the SAS. And the reason he couldn't do chin ups was coz his shoulder dislocates now from too much action.
Mr TA never said another word again. Must be something quite disconcerting knowing that someone can break your neck with their little finger even tho you can do more chin ups ha ha.
i got on very well with Mr SAS and we would sit in his office and have a bit of a giggle about it. He'd never actually say a bad word about Mr TA but the banter was always along the lines of how he should have joined the TA coz then he would be better at chin ups and i would have even considered letting him come cycling but there's no way he's gonna keep up without TA training etc. Every chance i got to compare him to TA I would drop it out and the banter was brill ... Then one day i was admiring his "wings" (believe me, there was a lot more to admire but i wasn't allowed to touch anything else LOL) and he told me he was not in the SAS, he was ex-SBS.
Mr TA went white when i told him. Apparently the SBS is the dogs bollox compared to the SAS. And the reason he couldn't do chin ups was coz his shoulder dislocates now from too much action.
Mr TA never said another word again. Must be something quite disconcerting knowing that someone can break your neck with their little finger even tho you can do more chin ups ha ha.
steveindenmark
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I served 12 years in the army, starting at 16.
As you can see you have received a mountain of advice, a lot of it guesswork and supposition.
Get professional advice. If he cant be bothered to to that, he has probably chosen the wrong career.
Do not get him a padded Bergen. I cannot even guess how many hundreds of miles I ran with one. It did nothing for my upper body strength and knackered my knees.
Physical training methods and equipment have moved on so much in the last few years. He really needs to talk to someone who knows what they are talking about.
If he needs convincing, get him to message me on here.
A guy I grew up with became SAS. I visited him on the base in Hereford. I was also military at the time. There were also 3 SAS guys on my army diving course in Plymouth. I met several during my 12 years. They are the most unassuming guys I have met.
Steve
As you can see you have received a mountain of advice, a lot of it guesswork and supposition.
Get professional advice. If he cant be bothered to to that, he has probably chosen the wrong career.
Do not get him a padded Bergen. I cannot even guess how many hundreds of miles I ran with one. It did nothing for my upper body strength and knackered my knees.
Physical training methods and equipment have moved on so much in the last few years. He really needs to talk to someone who knows what they are talking about.
If he needs convincing, get him to message me on here.
A guy I grew up with became SAS. I visited him on the base in Hereford. I was also military at the time. There were also 3 SAS guys on my army diving course in Plymouth. I met several during my 12 years. They are the most unassuming guys I have met.
Steve
david k
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Try this http://coachrugbyleague.com.au/Documents/International/101 Fitness Drills.pdf did most of these when playing rugby and can ensure you the drills are excellent for building fitness and takes on board all aspects of aerobic, core strength etc. Start from around page 22. Many of the drills used in Rugby League came from military type fitness activities
Hill Wimp
Fair weathered,fair minded but easily persuaded.
I mentioned this post this morning to a couple of friends who are still serving. They said boxing is a good start and if he is not prepared to put himself out now then he has probably chosen the wrong career but if he does get in he will find it a damn sight easier if he does some of the basic stuff before he goes in.
ACS
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I would strongly recommended joining a well regarded boxing gym. Not to box. Training with a boxing coach will provide a high level of good all round aerobic and core fitness, upper and lower body strength and an insight into the discipline and focus required to succeed in a fitness driven environment .
I was never in the SAS, SBS, RM but I did spend most of my 30 years working for Aunty Betty on operational duties in support of them and training with the boxers always worked for most of us. No I never went into a ring or punched anything other an a big bag.
I was never in the SAS, SBS, RM but I did spend most of my 30 years working for Aunty Betty on operational duties in support of them and training with the boxers always worked for most of us. No I never went into a ring or punched anything other an a big bag.
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jdtate101
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- Boring Birmingham
2nd BMF. As he's signing up they might do him a cheapy offer on sessions. Good focus on overall fitness and my local park runs specific "arms", "stomach" or "running" sessions for those who want to target a specific area. If he's already very fit I suspect he would go straight in at green level, so will get a real taste of Army PT training. All the guys I train with at my local park are ex Royal Marines PTI's and really lay on a good beasting......
downesy
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- Ayrshire via Birmingham
Ha " Beasting" that word still brings me out in a cold sweat.
ayceejay
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I would have a good common sense session with him and persuade him to do something else with his life. He can still cycle. box, go to the gym play rugby etc. and miss out on the parent worrying occupation.
steveindenmark
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Banjo
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I haven't influenced my kids career choices at all. Just tried to offer some guidance and support.
I may have given people the impression he is unmotivated or lazy. That's absolutely not the case. He has self discipline does running and various sports so is probably allready ahead of lots of youngsters. I just struggled to get it through to him that upper body strength is needed as well.
Things have moved on now through his Cadet leaders he now has access to gym and PTi at local MOD base and is doing a part time sports course there so hopefully in that environment he will soon know the score. Thanks for the replies.
I may have given people the impression he is unmotivated or lazy. That's absolutely not the case. He has self discipline does running and various sports so is probably allready ahead of lots of youngsters. I just struggled to get it through to him that upper body strength is needed as well.
Things have moved on now through his Cadet leaders he now has access to gym and PTi at local MOD base and is doing a part time sports course there so hopefully in that environment he will soon know the score. Thanks for the replies.
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ayceejay
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"let him lead his own life."
Somewhere between this and negligence is a very fine line. Parents have a responsibility towards their offspring and part of this is to guide them away from making bad choices (and yes, as a parent you get to decide what a bad choice is). The reality of military life is not the same as the romantic picture conjured up by recruiting organizations so at least a dose of realism is required do the family accept that the boy will be working in 'harms way' (as the Americans call it) and the possible outcome?
Having said all that I do think it is sad that this is one of the few opportunities open to young people.
Somewhere between this and negligence is a very fine line. Parents have a responsibility towards their offspring and part of this is to guide them away from making bad choices (and yes, as a parent you get to decide what a bad choice is). The reality of military life is not the same as the romantic picture conjured up by recruiting organizations so at least a dose of realism is required do the family accept that the boy will be working in 'harms way' (as the Americans call it) and the possible outcome?
Having said all that I do think it is sad that this is one of the few opportunities open to young people.
