Another weird bicycle indicator system.

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byegad

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NE England
Yup.
 
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PpPete

PpPete

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Chandler's Ford
Car drivers do not expect them on a bicycle. They expect an arm indication.
Some cyclists bicycle users are not confident about holding an arm off the handlebars for a significant length of time
The lights are too close together to distinguish right from left and vice versa.
At least the design in the OP overcomes some of that objection
Many cyclists now run flashing rear lights which would add to the confusion.
One would hope that the chevrons would light up in sequence so that it is obvious to the dimmest motorist that the bike is going to thataway.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating use of these, wouldn't be seen dead using them myself - just don't think we should condemn innovative thinking out of hand because previous designs like the Winkku are distinctly crap sub-optimal.
 

ianrauk

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Rides Ti2
One would hope that the chevrons would light up in sequence so that it is obvious to the dimmest motorist that the bike is going to thataway.

With this Pete.
Any cyclist that uses them, say turning left for instance, would be near a kerb mostly anyway. So the lights would be distorted by road furniture, parked cars, the kerb etc. You would have to be in primary all the time for them to be noticeable as per the pic in your first post..

I'm not condemning innovation. It's just that it's an invention that is really not needed.
 

shouldbeinbed

Rollin' along
Location
Manchester way
There was something similar a while back that put a light 'exclusion zone' on the ground around you. That disappear without trace very quickly, this'll go the same way I think.
 

shouldbeinbed

Rollin' along
Location
Manchester way
Would that be the Blaze bike light?

The lass who invented it has got the money to make the first batch:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/embrooke/blaze-bike-light?ref=live

No it wasn't that, it projected lines onto the road on either side of you,
 

Davidc

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Location
Somerset UK
Agree with Ian.

The various types of indicators cause confusion and can be dangerous because there is no standard.

I wear a luminous band on each wrist in the hope my outstretched arm will be seen more easily.

So do I, the slap wraps which are reflective and also bright hiviz stuff for in daylight. I've been told (by a cyclist who's seen me while driving) that they're very effective.
 
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PpPete

PpPete

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With this Pete.
Any cyclist that uses them, say turning left for instance, would be near a kerb mostly anyway. So the lights would be distorted by road furniture, parked cars, the kerb etc. You would have to be in primary all the time for them to be noticeable as per the pic in your first post..
Very true.... but having a device that "encourages" one to ride primary may not be a bad thing.

I'm not condemning innovation. It's just that it's an invention that is really not needed.
Certainly not needed by you, nor by me, nor the majority of competent cyclists who can ride in such a way as to make their intentions clear. But at the risk of repeating myself... not everyone who rides a bike is as confident that they can accurately steer whilst holding one arm out in a clear and unequivocal signal.
 
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